For making something with silk touch, the least amount of experience needed on average is level 12 on gold tools (and you're expected to get one silk touch tool for every 24 made), 20 on iron tools (1 silk touch tool for every 13 made), and 21 on diamond tools (1 silk touch tool for every 13 made).
Those are just the expected amount tho, it could take many more or less, or never if you're super unlucky.
Great work! This also suggests that it is wise to save almost-expended tools for repair - it is a way to disenchant an item that has an enchantment you don't want/need.
Since it was already announced to going to be fixed it makes it a bug, therefore using it will be an exploit.
What they did is not fixing, its changing it. They noticed we could do some things that they didnt want us to do it, instead of fixing, which would be correcting the spawners to the proper spawner ID they just changed it. I really disagree with this decision, dweler is right, you spend hours and hours leveling to get the enchantment for what? getting grass, glass, stairs, ice etc... some of them might be cool to get but i guess it doesnt worths spending hours and hours trying to stay alive (cuz you will lose exp) and trying to get to the level to get it... Silk touch effect on spawners DO worths the effort and i wont consider it since spawners where there and you can mine them (as long as you FIX the id like im planning to do).
What they did is not fixing, its changing it. They noticed we could do some things that they didnt want us to do it, instead of fixing, which would be correcting the spawners to the proper spawner ID they just changed it. I really disagree with this decision, dweler is right, you spend hours and hours leveling to get the enchantment for what? getting grass, glass, stairs, ice etc... some of them might be cool to get but i guess it doesnt worths spending hours and hours trying to stay alive (cuz you will lose exp) and trying to get to the level to get it... Silk touch effect on spawners DO worths the effort and i wont consider it since spawners where there and you can mine them (as long as you FIX the id like im planning to do).
no, the spawner was never meant to be mineable, and was always very hard to break IIRC, which means Silk Touch negated a barrier stopping you from doing something the developers did not want you to do, this is considered an Exploitation, the pig spawner popping up to grab is a flaw in the game mechanism, the spawner tries to become mineable, but a code reverts its properties to a stock setting of a pig spawner, no one told you spawners would be yours to mine and place, not Notch and certainly not Jeb, so this is the fix you speak of, not a change, end of discussion.
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what on EARTH am I doing wrong,I am level 42 but I keep getting garbage enchants that make no sense, I have read so many of these that I basically have the standard galactic alphabet memorized and can read it right off the client.
the enchants available only range from level 1-5 and the ones that I get things such as "grow water shrink cube" or "sphere grow wet shrink" "destroy demon cube imbue" or "limited inside enchant"
what gives? gibe me silk touch plx
Ditto I WANT SILK TOUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*help* *gently cries*
no. unbreaking III gold pick lasts ~126 uses. Pitiful.
Well... this is awkward
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"I'm an outsider by choice, but not truly.
It’s the unpleasantness of the system that keeps me out.
I’d rather be in, in a good system. That’s where my discontent comes from:
being forced to choose to stay outside.
My advice: Just keep movin’ straight ahead.
Every now and then you find yourself in a different place."
-George Carlin
no, the spawner was never meant to be mineable, and was always very hard to break IIRC, which means Silk Touch negated a barrier stopping you from doing something the developers did not want you to do, this is considered an Exploitation, the pig spawner popping up to grab is a flaw in the game mechanism, the spawner tries to become mineable, but a code reverts its properties to a stock setting of a pig spawner, no one told you spawners would be yours to mine and place, not Notch and certainly not Jeb, so this is the fix you speak of, not a change, end of discussion.
I disagree, they NEVER said it was not intended after a wile after the release, when they notice they didnt wanted it. I dont know anything bout programming (do you) you know, but i guess theres a way to change the code to avoid pig spawners when they become mineable without reversing. In the wiki the hability of mining spawners with silk touch appeared as a feature, not a bug, and remember they check the wiki for bugs. You say end of the discussion as you are holder of truth and either of us are... the end of this discussions beggins now they changed it and the harm is done...
I disagree, they NEVER said it was not intended after a wile after the release, when they notice they didnt wanted it. I dont know anything bout programming (do you) you know, but i guess theres a way to change the code to avoid pig spawners when they become mineable without reversing. In the wiki the hability of mining spawners with silk touch appeared as a feature, not a bug, and remember they check the wiki for bugs. You say end of the discussion as you are holder of truth and either of us are... the end of this discussions beggins now they changed it and the harm is done...
My statement stands as IS, spawners are not yours to play with if you want them revert your game client or mod the spawner to be mineable, as it stands they removed the feature because it is an exploitable mechanic, therefore it IS a bug and should be removed, this is my and I am sure Mojangs view.
In the wiki it claims you have new camera controls in Pre 5, should those stay in? distorting your view is obviously an intended game mechanic for survival mode.
It may be that putting too many spawners into one chunk would negate the spawn limit of a mob, and if you grief using this technique you could potentially corrupt a Servers save file.
ever think about those kind of repercussions and what how angry you would be if your world save corrupted over an exploit?
They may later want to add the monster spawners to creative mode, this would ruin that entire purpose.
you being "harmed" by not being able to retrieve or place spawners is absurd.
learn what an exploit is, people exploit everything, everyday, and should not, morally, but they continue to because there are no rule or law claiming it is wrong.
so that is why I say end of discussion.
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It may be that putting too many spawners into one chunk would negate the spawn limit of a mob, and if you grief using this technique you could potentially corrupt a Servers save file.
Sorry... I don't think it works that way... The absolute worst thing that could happen is that the passive mob cap be reached.... and couldn't something like that be prevented by monitoring server logs and backing up regularly? yes. that is what would happen for a server that was important.
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"I'm an outsider by choice, but not truly.
It’s the unpleasantness of the system that keeps me out.
I’d rather be in, in a good system. That’s where my discontent comes from:
being forced to choose to stay outside.
My advice: Just keep movin’ straight ahead.
Every now and then you find yourself in a different place."
-George Carlin
What, forget to put your **** away coming out of the bathroom?
10/13 then 10/31
no need to be so hostile...
just pointing out how one post says notch face, then the next is pitiful...
you obviously thought 126 uses was good, until you realized it isn't...
so you basically said something was notch face without really knowing...
that was what I was saying was awkward.
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"I'm an outsider by choice, but not truly.
It’s the unpleasantness of the system that keeps me out.
I’d rather be in, in a good system. That’s where my discontent comes from:
being forced to choose to stay outside.
My advice: Just keep movin’ straight ahead.
Every now and then you find yourself in a different place."
-George Carlin
Great work! This also suggests that it is wise to save almost-expended tools for repair - it is a way to disenchant an item that has an enchantment you don't want/need.
What they did is not fixing, its changing it. They noticed we could do some things that they didnt want us to do it, instead of fixing, which would be correcting the spawners to the proper spawner ID they just changed it. I really disagree with this decision, dweler is right, you spend hours and hours leveling to get the enchantment for what? getting grass, glass, stairs, ice etc... some of them might be cool to get but i guess it doesnt worths spending hours and hours trying to stay alive (cuz you will lose exp) and trying to get to the level to get it... Silk touch effect on spawners DO worths the effort and i wont consider it since spawners where there and you can mine them (as long as you FIX the id like im planning to do).
no, the spawner was never meant to be mineable, and was always very hard to break IIRC, which means Silk Touch negated a barrier stopping you from doing something the developers did not want you to do, this is considered an Exploitation, the pig spawner popping up to grab is a flaw in the game mechanism, the spawner tries to become mineable, but a code reverts its properties to a stock setting of a pig spawner, no one told you spawners would be yours to mine and place, not Notch and certainly not Jeb, so this is the fix you speak of, not a change, end of discussion.
Is used a silk touch pick on a bookcase and it worked just fine, and if I remember right a axe works on ice and grass
Ditto I WANT SILK TOUCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*help* *gently cries*
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Link is in my sig.
Well... this is awkward
"I'm an outsider by choice, but not truly.
It’s the unpleasantness of the system that keeps me out.
I’d rather be in, in a good system. That’s where my discontent comes from:
being forced to choose to stay outside.
My advice: Just keep movin’ straight ahead.
Every now and then you find yourself in a different place."
-George Carlin
I disagree, they NEVER said it was not intended after a wile after the release, when they notice they didnt wanted it. I dont know anything bout programming (do you) you know, but i guess theres a way to change the code to avoid pig spawners when they become mineable without reversing. In the wiki the hability of mining spawners with silk touch appeared as a feature, not a bug, and remember they check the wiki for bugs. You say end of the discussion as you are holder of truth and either of us are... the end of this discussions beggins now they changed it and the harm is done...
My statement stands as IS, spawners are not yours to play with if you want them revert your game client or mod the spawner to be mineable, as it stands they removed the feature because it is an exploitable mechanic, therefore it IS a bug and should be removed, this is my and I am sure Mojangs view.
In the wiki it claims you have new camera controls in Pre 5, should those stay in? distorting your view is obviously an intended game mechanic for survival mode.
It may be that putting too many spawners into one chunk would negate the spawn limit of a mob, and if you grief using this technique you could potentially corrupt a Servers save file.
ever think about those kind of repercussions and what how angry you would be if your world save corrupted over an exploit?
They may later want to add the monster spawners to creative mode, this would ruin that entire purpose.
you being "harmed" by not being able to retrieve or place spawners is absurd.
learn what an exploit is, people exploit everything, everyday, and should not, morally, but they continue to because there are no rule or law claiming it is wrong.
so that is why I say end of discussion.
Sorry... I don't think it works that way... The absolute worst thing that could happen is that the passive mob cap be reached.... and couldn't something like that be prevented by monitoring server logs and backing up regularly? yes. that is what would happen for a server that was important.
"I'm an outsider by choice, but not truly.
It’s the unpleasantness of the system that keeps me out.
I’d rather be in, in a good system. That’s where my discontent comes from:
being forced to choose to stay outside.
My advice: Just keep movin’ straight ahead.
Every now and then you find yourself in a different place."
-George Carlin
What, forget to put your **** away coming out of the bathroom?
10/13 then 10/31
no need to be so hostile...
just pointing out how one post says notch face, then the next is pitiful...
you obviously thought 126 uses was good, until you realized it isn't...
so you basically said something was notch face without really knowing...
that was what I was saying was awkward.
"I'm an outsider by choice, but not truly.
It’s the unpleasantness of the system that keeps me out.
I’d rather be in, in a good system. That’s where my discontent comes from:
being forced to choose to stay outside.
My advice: Just keep movin’ straight ahead.
Every now and then you find yourself in a different place."
-George Carlin
I had almost a month to change my mind, which I did.
Don't make smarmy posts and I won't be hostile.
not very balanced.
i'm on a boat!
As of pre-5 you can't loot spawners.
If you want to talk about unbalanced, how about wheat + wheat + cow + cow = unlimited steak, leather and milk.
that. people dont know unbalanced when it is squatting in front of them, taking a #2 on their carpets...