Countless times I have stumbled across server application threads with members being denied because of their age. I know this is a cliche, overdone topic; my main point is the Catch-22 post-denial of applications. It usually goes something along the lines of this:
IGN: Bob222
Age: 14 but I'm mature
etc. etc.
Application denied, must be 15+.
Why? I'm almost 15 and probably more mature than them. Please give me a chance. This isn't fair.
Thanks for proving my point that you're not mature. Stop being annoying about it and go away.
I have seen this soooo many times and it really makes me mad. And it's not personal, because I can get in most servers that I want to. It's just that the applicant can't win. Even if they post incredibly maturely and do everything right, they don't get in. And if they proclaim this unjust in any way then they're just reinforcing the OP's "point". But if they don't proclaim this unjust, then they don't get in the server anyway. There is a dead end wherever they turn.
So what does this lead to? I believe, lying. That seems like the only logical way to get past the maze. Let's be honest, lying about your age on the internet is probably one of the easiest things to do. So am I a 20 year old college student or am I that 14 year old I was describing? Yes, you can check my post history and see if I've mentioned my age elsewhere, but what if I've been lying the whole time?
I encourage anyone who has ever been rejected due to age to just lie. There is nothing noble about truth anymore. There are no rewards for honesty. The person looking over your application will rarely "give you a chance" ...so you have to make your own chance.
And that, it seems, sadly, is the only way to combat the idiocracy of agism.
If the system is corrupt, don't follow the rules of the system.
There is nothing noble about truth anymore. There are no rewards for honesty.
We're talking about minecraft servers, right? It's not really that important to get on any specific server, since there are so many. And the server that will deny an app based strictly on age probably isn't worth going on anyway.
If they'll keep you out because of your age, imagine what they do in the server.
Servers are privately owned for the most part. Usually they have their own specific rules. If age is one of them and you do not meet that requirement, then don't apply. Suggesting that some one lies about their age, just to get on a game server, is definitely not a sign of some one who is mature.
Bah, nobody cares about that. The real difficult catch-22 to get over is this:
I'm a college grad fresh out of school looking for work! Oh, look, a job opening for an entry-level position! 4 years of experience required?! Well, there must be others out there...
Bah, nobody cares about that. The real difficult catch-22 to get over is this:
I'm a college grad fresh out of school looking for work! Oh, look, a job opening for an entry-level position! 4 years of experience required?! Well, there must be others out there...
PROTIP: There isn't.
Wonderful isn't it?
Its who you know, not what you know that determines if you get a job or not.
Bah, nobody cares about that. The real difficult catch-22 to get over is this:
I'm a college grad fresh out of school looking for work! Oh, look, a job opening for an entry-level position! 4 years of experience required?! Well, there must be others out there...
PROTIP: There isn't.
<sarcasm>Congratulations! You just found out that going to college doesn't guarantee a high paying job! :happy.gif:</sarcasm>
On a server I moderated, we had a 13+ age restriction, simply because some people told mature jokes or used mature language (not talking like a Shakespearean, the other "mature"). Also, it was a "drug war" themed server, so we didn't think it'd be a good idea to have younger players involved in even fake drug trafficking.
Im still gonna stick to my post. """""THIS IS A STUPID THREAD!""""" If an owner of a server wants people who are 15+ then what is wrong with that? That is their decision to make...but oh, its not fair! Waaaaaaaaaa! D': WTF is this? 3rd grade? LIFES NOT FAIR KIDS! GTFO!!!!....Sry about that. Maybe they have had bad past experience with kids younger than 15. Plus a group of adults probably don't want to play with a bunch of 10 yr olds because they either swear, tell dirty jokes, or just dont wanna play with younger kids. What really makes this thread stupid in my opinion is that you are telling people to lie about their age so they can get their application accepted......umm im pretty i could of lied about my age without reading this dumb post in the first place, but still this is just a stupid thing to write about anyways.
"Servers are privately owned for the most part. Usually they have their own specific rules. If age is one of them and you do not meet that requirement, then don't apply. Suggesting that some one lies about their age, just to get on a game server, is definitely not a sign of some one who is mature." -Magnum1973
This guy pretty much nailed the dagger in your heart, Vancouver. You must be a kid who has been denied if you defend this thread or made this thread. So, no matter what you say about about the first post or what this post says, "THIS THREAD IS STUPID!"
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Im still gonna stick to my post. """""THIS IS A STUPID THREAD!""""" If an owner of a server wants people who are 15+ then what is wrong with that? That is their decision to make...but oh, its not fair! Waaaaaaaaaa! D': WTF is this? 3rd grade? LIFES NOT FAIR KIDS! GTFO!!!!....Sry about that. Maybe they have had bad past experience with kids younger than 15. Plus a group of adults probably don't want to play with a bunch of 10 yr olds because they either swear, tell dirty jokes, or just dont wanna play with younger kids. What really makes this thread stupid in my opinion is that you are telling people to lie about their age so they can get their application accepted......umm im pretty i could of lied about my age without reading this dumb post in the first place, but still this is just a stupid thing to write about anyways.
"Servers are privately owned for the most part. Usually they have their own specific rules. If age is one of them and you do not meet that requirement, then don't apply. Suggesting that some one lies about their age, just to get on a game server, is definitely not a sign of some one who is mature." -Magnum1973
This guy pretty much nailed the dagger in your heart, Vancouver. You must be a kid who has been denied if you defend this thread or made this thread. So, no matter what you say about about the first post or what this post says, "THIS THREAD IS STUPID!"
Post paid by "The Mature Owners Who Want 15+ Players And Not People Who Are Encouraged To LIE About Their Age :biggrin.gif:"
You must be easy to lie to. If I were still 14, I would have lied about my age and got in. Guess what? You wouldn't know the difference.
Also, your argument is invalid. Prove me wrong.
Hint: There's a rule against discrimination by age.
Im still gonna stick to my post. """""THIS IS A STUPID THREAD!""""" If an owner of a server wants people who are 15+ then what is wrong with that? That is their decision to make...but oh, its not fair! Waaaaaaaaaa! D': WTF is this? 3rd grade? LIFES NOT FAIR KIDS! GTFO!!!!....Sry about that. Maybe they have had bad past experience with kids younger than 15. Plus a group of adults probably don't want to play with a bunch of 10 yr olds because they either swear, tell dirty jokes, or just dont wanna play with younger kids. What really makes this thread stupid in my opinion is that you are telling people to lie about their age so they can get their application accepted......umm im pretty i could of lied about my age without reading this dumb post in the first place, but still this is just a stupid thing to write about anyways.
"Servers are privately owned for the most part. Usually they have their own specific rules. If age is one of them and you do not meet that requirement, then don't apply. Suggesting that some one lies about their age, just to get on a game server, is definitely not a sign of some one who is mature." -Magnum1973
This guy pretty much nailed the dagger in your heart, Vancouver. You must be a kid who has been denied if you defend this thread or made this thread. So, no matter what you say about about the first post or what this post says, "THIS THREAD IS STUPID!"
Post paid by "The Mature Owners Who Want 15+ Players And Not People Who Are Encouraged To LIE About Their Age :biggrin.gif:"
I don't think I was whining nor complaining about the unfairness of it.
"umm im pretty i could of lied about my age without reading this dumb post in the first place, but still this is just a stupid thing to write about anyways."
^What is this I don't even/wut/no
"You must be a kid who has been denied if you defend this thread or made this thread."
I have been denied before, but not recently (that is not the cause of this thread). I wrote this thread to point out the sad, unfair Catch-22 that server owners impose and offer a logical solution.
"Suggesting that some one lies about their age, just to get on a game server, is definitely not a sign of some one who is mature"
I didn't write this thread to prove that I'm mature nor did I write it to suggest I am not immature. This is not about maturity. Do not try to assault my character because that is not relevant.
Lying is the best way to get into a server with an age restrictment, hands down. That is my argument.
Im still gonna stick to my post. """""THIS IS A STUPID THREAD!""""" If an owner of a server wants people who are 15+ then what is wrong with that? That is their decision to make...but oh, its not fair! Waaaaaaaaaa! D': WTF is this? 3rd grade? LIFES NOT FAIR KIDS! GTFO!!!!....Sry about that. Maybe they have had bad past experience with kids younger than 15. Plus a group of adults probably don't want to play with a bunch of 10 yr olds because they either swear, tell dirty jokes, or just dont wanna play with younger kids. What really makes this thread stupid in my opinion is that you are telling people to lie about their age so they can get their application accepted......umm im pretty i could of lied about my age without reading this dumb post in the first place, but still this is just a stupid thing to write about anyways.
"Servers are privately owned for the most part. Usually they have their own specific rules. If age is one of them and you do not meet that requirement, then don't apply. Suggesting that some one lies about their age, just to get on a game server, is definitely not a sign of some one who is mature." -Magnum1973
This guy pretty much nailed the dagger in your heart, Vancouver. You must be a kid who has been denied if you defend this thread or made this thread. So, no matter what you say about about the first post or what this post says, "THIS THREAD IS STUPID!"
Post paid by "The Mature Owners Who Want 15+ Players And Not People Who Are Encouraged To LIE About Their Age :biggrin.gif:"
This is the real catch 22. And you guys wonder why you get treated like **** and looked down on?
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Am I the only one that notices the OP is just using "catch-22" as an emphatic term? There's no catch-22 about it. It would be a catch-22 if, when you turned 15, the mods automatically kick you off MCF, but catch-22 is not just some mere "I can't do something!"
That aside, just find another server and move on. As a server owner myself there's a reason mods discriminate on age, although since most of the immature kids that cause trouble lie anyway there isn't that much of a reason to immediately deny people who say they're under-aged. There will pretty much always be another server for you.
Am I the only one who was incredibly confused by the title? I can't be.
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IGN: Bob222
Age: 14 but I'm mature
etc. etc.
Application denied, must be 15+.
Why? I'm almost 15 and probably more mature than them. Please give me a chance. This isn't fair.
Thanks for proving my point that you're not mature. Stop being annoying about it and go away.
I have seen this soooo many times and it really makes me mad. And it's not personal, because I can get in most servers that I want to. It's just that the applicant can't win. Even if they post incredibly maturely and do everything right, they don't get in. And if they proclaim this unjust in any way then they're just reinforcing the OP's "point". But if they don't proclaim this unjust, then they don't get in the server anyway. There is a dead end wherever they turn.
So what does this lead to? I believe, lying. That seems like the only logical way to get past the maze. Let's be honest, lying about your age on the internet is probably one of the easiest things to do. So am I a 20 year old college student or am I that 14 year old I was describing? Yes, you can check my post history and see if I've mentioned my age elsewhere, but what if I've been lying the whole time?
I encourage anyone who has ever been rejected due to age to just lie. There is nothing noble about truth anymore. There are no rewards for honesty. The person looking over your application will rarely "give you a chance" ...so you have to make your own chance.
And that, it seems, sadly, is the only way to combat the idiocracy of agism.
If the system is corrupt, don't follow the rules of the system.
Ok...
That ruined it.
We're talking about minecraft servers, right? It's not really that important to get on any specific server, since there are so many. And the server that will deny an app based strictly on age probably isn't worth going on anyway.
If they'll keep you out because of your age, imagine what they do in the server.
I'm a college grad fresh out of school looking for work! Oh, look, a job opening for an entry-level position! 4 years of experience required?! Well, there must be others out there...
PROTIP: There isn't.
Wonderful isn't it?
Its who you know, not what you know that determines if you get a job or not.
>_<
<sarcasm>Congratulations! You just found out that going to college doesn't guarantee a high paying job! :happy.gif:</sarcasm>
What type of job are you looking for?
I haven't played Minecraft in a long time.
There's applicants now?
"Servers are privately owned for the most part. Usually they have their own specific rules. If age is one of them and you do not meet that requirement, then don't apply. Suggesting that some one lies about their age, just to get on a game server, is definitely not a sign of some one who is mature." -Magnum1973
This guy pretty much nailed the dagger in your heart, Vancouver. You must be a kid who has been denied if you defend this thread or made this thread. So, no matter what you say about about the first post or what this post says, "THIS THREAD IS STUPID!"
Post paid by "The Mature Owners Who Want 15+ Players And Not People Who Are Encouraged To LIE About Their Age :biggrin.gif:"
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You must be easy to lie to. If I were still 14, I would have lied about my age and got in. Guess what? You wouldn't know the difference.
Also, your argument is invalid. Prove me wrong.
Hint: There's a rule against discrimination by age.
Fixed.
This, agree.
I don't think I was whining nor complaining about the unfairness of it.
"umm im pretty i could of lied about my age without reading this dumb post in the first place, but still this is just a stupid thing to write about anyways."
^What is this I don't even/wut/no
"You must be a kid who has been denied if you defend this thread or made this thread."
I have been denied before, but not recently (that is not the cause of this thread). I wrote this thread to point out the sad, unfair Catch-22 that server owners impose and offer a logical solution.
"Suggesting that some one lies about their age, just to get on a game server, is definitely not a sign of some one who is mature"
I didn't write this thread to prove that I'm mature nor did I write it to suggest I am not immature. This is not about maturity. Do not try to assault my character because that is not relevant.
Lying is the best way to get into a server with an age restrictment, hands down. That is my argument.
This is the real catch 22. And you guys wonder why you get treated like **** and looked down on?
That aside, just find another server and move on. As a server owner myself there's a reason mods discriminate on age, although since most of the immature kids that cause trouble lie anyway there isn't that much of a reason to immediately deny people who say they're under-aged. There will pretty much always be another server for you.
“If, by some strange coincidence, a hundred sharp pencils I was carrying embedded themselves in a third-party, would that be an accidental death?” - Nisemonogatari