I have developed a mathematical and philosophical theory that demonstrates that the end of the human race is more likely to occur sooner than later.
Here goes. Let's say you had a dartboard shaped like the area under an exponential curve. If you threw trillions of darts at the board, where would most end up? To the left or to the right? To the right, of course, because there is more area on the board. So if you threw one dart randomly at a board of this shape, it will probably hit further to the right, assuming it does in fact hit.
First of all, let it be noted that the human population grows exponentially, just like the shape dartboard, with the left end at the beginning of the human race, and the right end at the end of the human race.
Now, let me apply the dartboard somewhat philosophically to humans. When you are first born, we are given a person to consciously control. You could be given some ancient Greek guy, or you could be given some futuristic guy, but instead, you were given the person that you control right now, born in whatever year you were born.
But why? Why are you not some Greek guy? That's easy. The population of Greeks was so much less than that of our current day and age, that the probability of you being an ancient Greek is pretty low. Say that in the entire course of human history, there are P number of people. The odds of you being a specific person are 1/P. If there were G people who lived in ancient Greece, there was a G/P probability of you being an ancient Greek. Say there are/were M people who lived in modern day. That means there was an M/P probability that you were to be assigned to a modern-day person. This is the case that occurred, obviously. Because G/P is FAR less than M/P, it makes perfect sense that you would be born today.
However, why were you not born in the future? If F is how many people exist in the future, F/P is the probability of you being born in the future. If the human race exists for 1000 more years, for instance, F is going to be ridiculously huge compared to M.. That means that F/P is extremely high next to M/P. So the odds of you being who you are is extremely low..
So either that ridiculously low-chance event occurred (the only flaw that this theory can't handle), or something else happened. Now what if, F/P was not as great as we thought? What if it were closer to M/P? That would completely justify the occurrence. But how could that be? Well what if, instead of the human race ending in 1000 years, what if it ended in a few days? That would drop F to a much lower number, thus making it more likely that your birth occurred in this current time period.
Therefore, it is either a very unlikely coincidence, OR the world ends soon. The sooner the world ends, the higher the probability of your birth, and thus, the odds of the world ending tomorrow are higher than the odds of the world ending in many years.
Meteor, 11/11/11 or 12/21/12: it's more likely than we think..
Your theory consists of the fact of the christian rebirth and everything having a meaning, I believe life is purely coincidence, or chance. And, in my theory, this is just a random, You can only be born in the present, and the way you put it is like every different time is a separate dimension, and you are put into it, you can't go back or forwards in time via birth.
ok so time periods of bieng born heres somthign for you. by the time that human axistance is bieng thretened it will be in a good 1000 years and by they we will be able to all reavel a s a human race in a big ship to other galixies (wally the movie)
Your theory consists of the fact of the christian rebirth and everything having a meaning, I believe life is purely coincidence, or chance. And, in my theory, this is just a random, You can only be born in the present, and the way you put it is like every different time is a separate dimension, and you are put into it, you can't go back or forwards in time via birth.
EDIT- and, that isn't evidence of the apocalypse
True. Different beliefs on time, fate and the like contradict this everywhere.
And yeah, I shouldn't have used the word apocalypse. It just seems that if the human race were to end quickly, that would be the way to go.
kinda random but if an apocalypse happens id want it to be a zombie apocalypse 'cause you'd actually have a chance at survival then a natural disaster apocalypse. anyone agree?
That statement requires believing there there's actually a chance you could have not ended up being you. You are a product of your environment, not some nebulous being waiting around for a body to inhabit. It is not possible for you to have been anyone else, your identity is built on the many internal and external influences that have happened on you since the egg and sperm that eventually became you were created in the body of your parents.
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Do you have a lovely bunch of coconuts? Do you have them all standing in a row? Are there big ones, small ones, some as big as your head?
kinda random but if an apocalypse happens id want it to be a zombie apocalypse 'cause you'd actually have a chance at survival then a natural disaster apocalypse. anyone agree?
Er, no. If the zombie apocalypse were to occur, all of humanity would die out. Why, you ask? Tell me, do you really believe humans have a chance at killing 6.3 billion zombies (I'm assuming the last couple hundred thousand would be immune/not infected)? Fighting in the zombie apocalypse would just be delaying the inevitable, hence why I shall off myself should it begin.
Just face it man, the only real reason you think the apocalypse is happening soon is because it makes you feel like you're more important than people in every other era.
If you threw trillions of darts at the board, where would most end up?
At a location larger than any positive value, because, to the left (negative) side of any point there is a finite area and to the right there is infinite area. Therefore, the darts have a 0 probability of hitting any finite location on the dart board.
First of all, let it be noted that the human population grows exponentially,
No it doesn't. It only grows exponentially over significantly small intervals in the past. The world population growth is currently slowing and the total population will probably level off somewhere around 10 billion.
When you are first born, we are given a person to consciously control.
When you are born, you are whatever you are born as. There isn't a body raffle behind held somewhere for some immaterial conscious to control remotely. You are your body.
However, why were you not born in the future?
Ignoring the obvious response of "because the future hasn't happened yet", a human could conceivably ask that about *any* time period they were born in. Therefore, we can safely conclude that that's entirely meaningless. I was born as a human hundreds of thousands of years after anatomically modern humans appeared, I'd say that's pretty far in future, if such a judgement wasn't completely arbitrary nonsense. Hell, if we want to follow this line of reasoning to its asinine conclusion, we could argue that no humans could have existed in the past since the odds are too small. Of course this is mathematically wrong, but then so is your argument.
Even if I grant the premise that there's a divine lottery handing out bodies, someone's going to have to be born in those past bodies because they obviously exist. This is such a horrendous abuse of probability theory that I don't think I can even begin to correct it. The fact that a random event occurs in a specific way really tells you nothing. Hell, every particular hand you can be dealt in poker is technically equally likely, so getting dealt a queen-high straight flush in hearts isn't any more likely than getting the 2 of hearts, 5 of spades, 9 of spades, jack of clubs, and ace of diamonds.
So either that ridiculously low-chance event occurred
Except it had to occur, by construction. If I have a deck of cards labelled 1 to a million and I deal one card at random to myself, the odds of my getting the 14 card are 1 in a million. Those are extraordinarily low odds. But if I keep dealing myself single cards, I'm guaranteed to get all of them. As I explained above, your example is the same thing. You have a set of humans that are dealt randomly. Ergo, someone will be born into every one of them. So you could pose this same issue to every human and then reason that all of them should never have happened. This is utter rubbish.
Therefore, it is either a very unlikely coincidence, OR the world ends soon.
False dichotomy. The other possibility is that you're just plain wrong. And you are.
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Never attribute to malice what can adequately be explained by incompetence.
That statement requires believing there there's actually a chance you could have not ended up being you. You are a product of your environment, not some nebulous being waiting around for a body to inhabit. It is not possible for you to have been anyone else, your identity is built on the many internal and external influences that have happened on you since the egg and sperm that eventually became you were created in the body of your parents.
Exactly right. But for the sake of argument I'll pretend that we are nebulous beings who wait around for a body to inhabit. Just because it's less probable that a specific aura would end up finding a body at this particular time than at a time in the future doesn't mean it's not possible. Some aura had to find the body I currently occupy. Thus there's a 100% chance that I should be alive right now. So even on the OP's own level of reasoning (which for the above reason is flawed in itself) the hypothesis doesn't hold.
In order to make your analogy more sound, you need a precision machine to stick the darts directly in the dartboard. It places them in order from bottom to top, left to right to fill the area below the curve. If you were the umpteenth dart placed, then you landed exactly where you should have. But at this point the analogy has lost all value as it doesn't demonstrate anything.
You just dont know how much Significanse that day holds unless you were actually there, which in any possiblity, you will never be.
So dont ever besmerch the name of D-day for anything, even your hypothetical theories.
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In a dream I could see you are not far away. Anytime, Anyplace. I can see your face.
You're that special one that I have been waiting for and I hope you're looking for someone like me.
********! Because everyone knows the Apocolypse is a ***** end-time when compared to the most badass endtimes ever conceived; Ragnarök. By the property of badassery, Ragnarök is bound to happen before the Apocolypse.
This is just stupid, you can't have been born into the future because those events haven't even happened yet, hurr durr.
That's not the reason why at all.
Let's say there's a queue for people being born; according to the OP, anyone can be born at any time.
This raffle exists outside of time. Observing.
The problem is the fact that it doesn't matter where someone is born; the term 'future' is relative.
When you are first born, we are given a person to consciously control.
This theory seems to hinge vitally on a belief of something akin to reincarnation.
Here goes. Let's say you had a dartboard shaped like the area under an exponential curve. If you threw trillions of darts at the board, where would most end up? To the left or to the right? To the right, of course, because there is more area on the board. So if you threw one dart randomly at a board of this shape, it will probably hit further to the right, assuming it does in fact hit.
First of all, let it be noted that the human population grows exponentially, just like the shape dartboard, with the left end at the beginning of the human race, and the right end at the end of the human race.
Now, let me apply the dartboard somewhat philosophically to humans. When you are first born, we are given a person to consciously control. You could be given some ancient Greek guy, or you could be given some futuristic guy, but instead, you were given the person that you control right now, born in whatever year you were born.
But why? Why are you not some Greek guy? That's easy. The population of Greeks was so much less than that of our current day and age, that the probability of you being an ancient Greek is pretty low. Say that in the entire course of human history, there are P number of people. The odds of you being a specific person are 1/P. If there were G people who lived in ancient Greece, there was a G/P probability of you being an ancient Greek. Say there are/were M people who lived in modern day. That means there was an M/P probability that you were to be assigned to a modern-day person. This is the case that occurred, obviously. Because G/P is FAR less than M/P, it makes perfect sense that you would be born today.
However, why were you not born in the future? If F is how many people exist in the future, F/P is the probability of you being born in the future. If the human race exists for 1000 more years, for instance, F is going to be ridiculously huge compared to M.. That means that F/P is extremely high next to M/P. So the odds of you being who you are is extremely low..
So either that ridiculously low-chance event occurred (the only flaw that this theory can't handle), or something else happened. Now what if, F/P was not as great as we thought? What if it were closer to M/P? That would completely justify the occurrence. But how could that be? Well what if, instead of the human race ending in 1000 years, what if it ended in a few days? That would drop F to a much lower number, thus making it more likely that your birth occurred in this current time period.
Therefore, it is either a very unlikely coincidence, OR the world ends soon. The sooner the world ends, the higher the probability of your birth, and thus, the odds of the world ending tomorrow are higher than the odds of the world ending in many years.
Meteor, 11/11/11 or 12/21/12: it's more likely than we think..
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That's not creepy. That's not even evidence. That's just pathetic.
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EDIT- and, that isn't evidence of the apocalypse
I'm sorry? I never said the population curves down. And I think it is pretty certain that the population is going to continue rising to some extent.
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True. Different beliefs on time, fate and the like contradict this everywhere.
And yeah, I shouldn't have used the word apocalypse. It just seems that if the human race were to end quickly, that would be the way to go.
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Er, no. If the zombie apocalypse were to occur, all of humanity would die out. Why, you ask? Tell me, do you really believe humans have a chance at killing 6.3 billion zombies (I'm assuming the last couple hundred thousand would be immune/not infected)? Fighting in the zombie apocalypse would just be delaying the inevitable, hence why I shall off myself should it begin.
My thoughts exactly.
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At a location larger than any positive value, because, to the left (negative) side of any point there is a finite area and to the right there is infinite area. Therefore, the darts have a 0 probability of hitting any finite location on the dart board.
No it doesn't. It only grows exponentially over significantly small intervals in the past. The world population growth is currently slowing and the total population will probably level off somewhere around 10 billion.
When you are born, you are whatever you are born as. There isn't a body raffle behind held somewhere for some immaterial conscious to control remotely. You are your body.
Ignoring the obvious response of "because the future hasn't happened yet", a human could conceivably ask that about *any* time period they were born in. Therefore, we can safely conclude that that's entirely meaningless. I was born as a human hundreds of thousands of years after anatomically modern humans appeared, I'd say that's pretty far in future, if such a judgement wasn't completely arbitrary nonsense. Hell, if we want to follow this line of reasoning to its asinine conclusion, we could argue that no humans could have existed in the past since the odds are too small. Of course this is mathematically wrong, but then so is your argument.
Even if I grant the premise that there's a divine lottery handing out bodies, someone's going to have to be born in those past bodies because they obviously exist. This is such a horrendous abuse of probability theory that I don't think I can even begin to correct it. The fact that a random event occurs in a specific way really tells you nothing. Hell, every particular hand you can be dealt in poker is technically equally likely, so getting dealt a queen-high straight flush in hearts isn't any more likely than getting the 2 of hearts, 5 of spades, 9 of spades, jack of clubs, and ace of diamonds.
Except it had to occur, by construction. If I have a deck of cards labelled 1 to a million and I deal one card at random to myself, the odds of my getting the 14 card are 1 in a million. Those are extraordinarily low odds. But if I keep dealing myself single cards, I'm guaranteed to get all of them. As I explained above, your example is the same thing. You have a set of humans that are dealt randomly. Ergo, someone will be born into every one of them. So you could pose this same issue to every human and then reason that all of them should never have happened. This is utter rubbish.
False dichotomy. The other possibility is that you're just plain wrong. And you are.
Exactly right. But for the sake of argument I'll pretend that we are nebulous beings who wait around for a body to inhabit. Just because it's less probable that a specific aura would end up finding a body at this particular time than at a time in the future doesn't mean it's not possible. Some aura had to find the body I currently occupy. Thus there's a 100% chance that I should be alive right now. So even on the OP's own level of reasoning (which for the above reason is flawed in itself) the hypothesis doesn't hold.
In order to make your analogy more sound, you need a precision machine to stick the darts directly in the dartboard. It places them in order from bottom to top, left to right to fill the area below the curve. If you were the umpteenth dart placed, then you landed exactly where you should have. But at this point the analogy has lost all value as it doesn't demonstrate anything.
Edit: ninja'd by a more thorough autopsy.
Dont you DARE call it d-day.
You just dont know how much Significanse that day holds unless you were actually there, which in any possiblity, you will never be.
So dont ever besmerch the name of D-day for anything, even your hypothetical theories.
You're that special one that I have been waiting for and I hope you're looking for someone like me.
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It gets a result.
That's not the reason why at all.
Let's say there's a queue for people being born; according to the OP, anyone can be born at any time.
This raffle exists outside of time. Observing.
The problem is the fact that it doesn't matter where someone is born; the term 'future' is relative.
This theory seems to hinge vitally on a belief of something akin to reincarnation.
Sometimes I wonder if it's all too easy.
Lying, cheating, stealing your way to victory.
Though just how far would you fall for a dream?