Does anybody else here find it that having a good pickaxe that you spent 40+ levels on it not worth it anymore? Since the new enchanting system, I find it way to easy to get to level 30. I just started a world and i'm caving and i'm already level 30. Before 1.3 getting like a Eff IV, Unbreak III & Fort III was the best or even silk touch. Now it's like it is not even worth having cause it's to easy to get.
Anybody else feel like this towards the new enchanting system?
I like it, previously, it used to take ages before hitting level 10.
The whole point would be to work for it. Make XP farms not go out each night to kill mobs. Even though I like that idea more but if you wanted exp faster and faster you would have to have to spend time & resources to make it.
No complaint about faster levels here - grinding does not equal skill. Now what I'd personally like is some more actual stages of advancement, like seeking out new resources or building special structures, but just grinding - nope, don't miss it.
it doesn't matter to me since instead of grinding enemies you are mining out the mines of all the ores. Building the mob farms was part of the game since it shows you had the skill to A) find the spawner mine the materials C) make the farm function. you could also argue that Mods like build craft and E2 are making it way to easy for player to 'beat' the game.
Players are still going to need to use farms to grind for the experience to enchant anything since ores and smelting metals is not going to be a efficient source, But hey to each their own. you want to make it harder, play on hardcore. If the max level for experience was still 50 it would be fine for me, but since it is 30 my blaze spawner is going to be seeing more frequent trips
So why don't they still increase to lvl 50 but have more methods of gaining levels? Level 30 is a bit low especially with multiple ways to get it. They should of either
Decrease to Level 30 and kept mob killing exp OR Stay at level 50 and added more ways of getting exp. They seemed to have combined the two to make it extremely easy.
Only problem with that is the fact that not everyone uses XP farms (myself included). Even using an XP farm is tedious. You just afk in front of the farm for a few minutes waiting for mobs. Even if you get up to level 50, it's not guaranteed that the enchantment you get will be good. I just felt the old XP system felt very unbalanced. I disliked that you could only get XP through killing mobs.
I'm guessing the system was revamped BECAUSE people were making XP farms. Was it really that fun building a farm and then standing in front of it for an hour and a half? It's not even that hard to do, you get more then enough Dirt and Stone to create one while you're out mining for the good stuff.
Ultimately the revamp didn't change the difficulty. It just changed how long it takes to fill your bar. More time for me to spend building what I want to build instead of Dinking around with a farm IMO. Totally a good change.
**** all of you. First you complain that things are too hard or too complex, then you complain about how they're all too easy and for scrubs. ****ing find a position, and pick one. Idiots like you are why I don't frequent the forums much anymore.
Why are you acting like the community is one person? Everyone has their own opinions and there's always going to be people on both sides of things. You can't expect the entire community to be on the same side for everything. If it was one person saying it was too hard and now it's too easy than yes, they're an idiot if they can't choose. But here you are saying "**** all of you" because they all can't agree on something. You sound like the biggest tool.
The pre-release made is harder to get it so I don't have a problem. Also the leather with books can cause a problem for a lot of people. They will give you the levels bur won't let you spend them until you have all the materials.
Why are you acting like the community is one person? Everyone has their own opinions and there's always going to be people on both sides of things. You can't expect the entire community to be on the same side for everything. If it was one person saying it was too hard and now it's too easy than yes, they're an idiot if they can't choose. But here you are saying "**** all of you" because they all can't agree on something. You sound like the biggest tool.
I'm guessing the system was revamped BECAUSE people were making XP farms. Was it really that fun building a farm and then standing in front of it for an hour and a half? It's not even that hard to do, you get more then enough Dirt and Stone to create one while you're out mining for the good stuff.
Ultimately the revamp didn't change the difficulty. It just changed how long it takes to fill your bar. More time for me to spend building what I want to build instead of Dinking around with a farm IMO. Totally a good change.
Actually the way I did it is I would build it (That's the fun part) then after it was done I would afk grind at it. You have multiple ways of afking. You can go play other games, watch video's. If you have nothing to do then don't bother exp grinding. The way I put it is if you're doing something else then why not let your game run in the backround without sound on. Then check back every 10 minutes and kill the mobs. That's the way I went about it and if you had an enderman exp farm in the end, then bam! 5-10 minutes you get to level 50. The better & more efficent the farm is then the better rates/faster exp gaining you will get. Now my enderman farm gets me to level 30 in a matter of 1-2 minutes. Which to me is just retarded. You have to work for the good stuff in my opinion
Work for it? You stand there doing nothing. You just said you go play another game while you wait. AFK grinding is not work. You either aren't at the computer, or you're playing another game in the background while you WAIT for your bar to fill. You're contradicting yourself at this point. You want to work for it but you run off to play another game while Steve sits there for 10 mins looking like a tool?
Where's the work?
Building the farm? Not really, the designs are all over the net. They're pretty easy to build. Even if you work the creative side of your brain a little bit and build from scratch it's not hard to come up with something that works well.
Is it in killing the mobs? A well build xp farm will allow you to kill them in one to two hits. So you sit around for 10 mins followed by a mass of clicking the right mouse button followed by another 10 minutes of waiting?
Still not seeing the work.
I'd MUCH rather play the game as it was ment to be played, mining, smelting and crafting, while gaining XP Naturally for those things then spend my time waiting, 10 mins at a time, for mobs to drop to their near death in a little hole, so that I can furiously click my right mouse button for a few moments. What's the sense in playing this game if you aren't going to play it?
Work for it? You stand there doing nothing. You just said you go play another game while you wait. AFK grinding is not work. You either aren't at the computer, or you're playing another game in the background while you WAIT for your bar to fill. You're contradicting yourself at this point. You want to work for it but you run off to play another game while Steve sits there for 10 mins looking like a tool?
Where's the work?
Building the farm? Not really, the designs are all over the net. They're pretty easy to build. Even if you work the creative side of your brain a little bit and build from scratch it's not hard to come up with something that works well.
Is it in killing the mobs? A well build xp farm will allow you to kill them in one to two hits. So you sit around for 10 mins followed by a mass of clicking the right mouse button followed by another 10 minutes of waiting?
Still not seeing the work.
I'd MUCH rather play the game as it was ment to be played, mining, smelting and crafting, while gaining XP Naturally for those things then spend my time waiting, 10 mins at a time, for mobs to drop to their near death in a little hole, so that I can furiously click my right mouse button for a few moments. What's the sense in playing this game if you aren't going to play it?
Well said, good sir! +1 rep for you!
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i just think that if they where going to make XP easier to get then they should have raised the max level to 40-60. Somewhere in between there. But meh opinions opinions
Anybody else feel like this towards the new enchanting system?
He has a point.
I said this. Two days later, my computer's motherboard melted down and I had to get a new one with Windows 8.
Irony in the first degree.
The whole point would be to work for it. Make XP farms not go out each night to kill mobs. Even though I like that idea more but if you wanted exp faster and faster you would have to have to spend time & resources to make it.
So I like the change so far.
I've built several exp farms- it's tedious and boring work.
Then I sit and afk for an hour or so. Again, boring.
I go to my enchanting table. Spend 5 minutes clicking for a level 50.
Bam. Unbreaking III. Pleasant, eh?
That's 1-12+ hours working on making the farm, plus resources, plus ~1 1/2 hour and a tool wasted every time I get a shitty enchant.
At least now we can level without grinding.
You shouldn't spend 40+ levels on enchanting anything. o_O
Players are still going to need to use farms to grind for the experience to enchant anything since ores and smelting metals is not going to be a efficient source, But hey to each their own. you want to make it harder, play on hardcore. If the max level for experience was still 50 it would be fine for me, but since it is 30 my blaze spawner is going to be seeing more frequent trips
Decrease to Level 30 and kept mob killing exp OR Stay at level 50 and added more ways of getting exp. They seemed to have combined the two to make it extremely easy.
I'm guessing the system was revamped BECAUSE people were making XP farms. Was it really that fun building a farm and then standing in front of it for an hour and a half? It's not even that hard to do, you get more then enough Dirt and Stone to create one while you're out mining for the good stuff.
Ultimately the revamp didn't change the difficulty. It just changed how long it takes to fill your bar. More time for me to spend building what I want to build instead of Dinking around with a farm IMO. Totally a good change.
Why are you acting like the community is one person? Everyone has their own opinions and there's always going to be people on both sides of things. You can't expect the entire community to be on the same side for everything. If it was one person saying it was too hard and now it's too easy than yes, they're an idiot if they can't choose. But here you are saying "**** all of you" because they all can't agree on something. You sound like the biggest tool.
He's right though.
Actually the way I did it is I would build it (That's the fun part) then after it was done I would afk grind at it. You have multiple ways of afking. You can go play other games, watch video's. If you have nothing to do then don't bother exp grinding. The way I put it is if you're doing something else then why not let your game run in the backround without sound on. Then check back every 10 minutes and kill the mobs. That's the way I went about it and if you had an enderman exp farm in the end, then bam! 5-10 minutes you get to level 50. The better & more efficent the farm is then the better rates/faster exp gaining you will get. Now my enderman farm gets me to level 30 in a matter of 1-2 minutes. Which to me is just retarded. You have to work for the good stuff in my opinion
Where's the work?
Building the farm? Not really, the designs are all over the net. They're pretty easy to build. Even if you work the creative side of your brain a little bit and build from scratch it's not hard to come up with something that works well.
Is it in killing the mobs? A well build xp farm will allow you to kill them in one to two hits. So you sit around for 10 mins followed by a mass of clicking the right mouse button followed by another 10 minutes of waiting?
Still not seeing the work.
I'd MUCH rather play the game as it was ment to be played, mining, smelting and crafting, while gaining XP Naturally for those things then spend my time waiting, 10 mins at a time, for mobs to drop to their near death in a little hole, so that I can furiously click my right mouse button for a few moments. What's the sense in playing this game if you aren't going to play it?
Well said, good sir! +1 rep for you!