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Quote from ChaosGuardian

Wow, this might be going somewhere. But I'd still like to see universal height variation in the normal-sized biomes mode.

Btw, we don't hate everything about the current terrain. And even if we brought back aspects of the 1.7 generator into the one we have now, nothing from the current generator would be removed, even mass amounts of flat land. <- I've said this so many times and I think people should honestly think about it before posting. T_T No offense, this might not have been what you meant but people are going ballistic thinking I want to bring back the 1.7 generator when I clearly don't.

Quote from ChaosGuardian

Wow, this might be going somewhere. But I'd still like to see universal height variation in the normal-sized biomes mode.

Btw, we don't hate everything about the current terrain. And even if we brought back aspects of the 1.7 generator into the one we have now, nothing from the current generator would be removed, even mass amounts of flat land. <- I've said this so many times and I think people should honestly think about it before posting. T_T No offense, this might not have been what you meant but people are going ballistic thinking I want to bring back the 1.7 generator when I clearly don't.

I agree with you, The size of biomes(in defult generation) is fine, I don't mind some flat land, and the structures, mountains, and amounts of ore is perfect (atleast if your in smp), we just want varriation, and a few terrain fixes thats it.

Quote from TastyLemonzz

Oceans = ~25,000 blocks long in any direction. Large Biomes multiplies the size of biomes by 16. O.o

400,000 block oceans anyone? This discussion about Large Biomes affecting oceans isn't relevant to this topic is it?

The Hell?! Jeb please do not enlarge the ocean biome pleeeeeaaase!

Quote from TastyLemonzz

Oceans = ~25,000 blocks long in any direction. Large Biomes multiplies the size of biomes by 16. O.o

400,000 block oceans anyone? This discussion about Large Biomes affecting oceans isn't relevant to this topic is it?

4 hundred THOUSAND blocks... Far Lands was at 16 million... It wouldn't take many oceans to get there.

Quote from Loons

This is what I got with the snapshot 12W21B:

I think we could be on the right way

EDIT:

World type: Default
Seed: -1044201473
x: 153
z: 7

Too bad it's only a jungle. We obviously know that jungles have some height variation to them. And is it just me or does height variation only occur in jungles where water is present?

Quote from ChaosGuardian

Too bad it's only a jungle. We obviously know that jungles have some height variation to them. And is it just me or does height variation only occur in jungles where water is present?

Yea that is true...

Look at this picture I found. It was taken during 1.7.

Where the hell are THOSE beaches and mountains?!?!?!

Quote from Stingra »

What texture pack is that Chaos?

yes it is less interesting than the old days I used to love trees on mountains

Quote from ChaosGuardian

Look at this picture I found. It was taken during 1.7.

Where the hell are THOSE beaches and mountains?!?!?!

Dat terrain.

Have you considered updating the OP with pictures user's have posted?

i dont really care about terrain that much but true exploring other places than caves became boring as hell

Quote from Shreaders

What texture pack is that Chaos?

Looks like Painterly to me, but it could be other things. You should ask the guy who took that picture, Stingra.

Quote from kiryuu0

Dat terrain.

Have you considered updating the OP with pictures user's have posted?

I promised I would do an OP makeover with the new pictures. I've just been really busy last and this week. Tomorrow I will hopefully get to it.

KEEP PUSHING GUYS!

Quote from LightPix

@ Stingra: Yees, that's the kind of terrain we need
With the new height limit it should also be a cinch to make real epic mountains...


Soo, I was just bored and turned my local "extreme" hills biome into a nice little forest valley, with world edit:




(Images are before and after)

I don't think there would be a great problem with just making trees spawn in a hills biome...

Beautiful just Beautiful

Btw as for the minor terrain changes apperantly theres jungle ruins, it seems minecraft is slowly becoming more... gammy but the terrain it self still needs improvement

Quote from LightPix

@ Stingra: Yees, that's the kind of terrain we need
With the new height limit it should also be a cinch to make real epic mountains...


Soo, I was just bored and turned my local "extreme" hills biome into a nice little forest valley, with world edit:I don't think there would be a great problem with just making trees spawn in a hills biome...

That certainly makes a huge difference in appearance, provides lot's of resources too.

Quote from kiryuu0

That certainly makes a huge difference in appearance, provides lot's of resources too.

Indeed. I still don't get it why they decided that the extreme hill biome doesn't need trees. It just makes it look dull, even though the landscape is interesting.

(Cross post - I just realised two threads are feeding off each other, so munch on this)

Ok - 12w22a has the following biomes and parameters:

	("Ocean").b(-1F, 0.4F);
	("Plains").a(0.8F, 0.4F);
	("Desert").m().a(2.0F, 0.0F).b(0.1F, 0.2F);
	("Extreme Hills").b(0.3F, 1.5F).a(0.2F, 0.3F);
	("Forest").a(0x4eba31).a(0.7F, 0.8F);
	("Taiga").a(0x4eba31).b().a(0.05F, 0.8F).b(0.1F, 0.4F);
	("Swampland").a(0x8baf48).b(-0.2F, 0.1F).a(0.8F, 0.9F);
	("River").b(-0.5F, 0.0F);
	("Hell").m().a(2.0F, 0.0F);
	("Sky").m();
	("FrozenOcean").b().b(-1F, 0.5F).a(0.0F, 0.5F);
	("FrozenRiver").b().b(-0.5F, 0.0F).a(0.0F, 0.5F);
	("Ice Plains").b().a(0.0F, 0.5F);
	("Ice Mountains").b().b(0.3F, 1.3F).a(0.0F, 0.5F);
	("MushroomIsland").a(0.9F, 1.0F).b(0.2F, 1.0F);
	("MushroomIslandShore").a(0.9F, 1.0F).b(-1F, 0.1F);
	("Beach").a(0.8F, 0.4F).b(0.0F, 0.1F);
	("DesertHills").m().a(2.0F, 0.0F).b(0.3F, 0.8F);
	("ForestHills").a(0x4eba31).a(0.7F, 0.8F).b(0.3F, 0.7F);
	("TaigaHills").b().a(0x4eba31).a(0.05F, 0.8F).b(0.3F, 0.8F);
	("Extreme Hills Edge").b(0.2F, 0.8F).a(0.2F, 0.3F);
	("Jungle").a(0x537b09).a(1.2F, 0.9F).b(0.2F, 0.4F);
	("JungleHills").a(0x537b09).a(1.2F, 0.9F).b(1.8F, 0.5F);

This is what is now in the game:

Plains has Extreme Hills which have Extreme Hills Edge. Even the hills have hills!
Desert has DesertHills
Forest has ForestHills
Taiga has TaigaHills
Jungle has JungleHills
Ice Plains has Ice Mountains
MushroomIslandShore has MushroomIsland which is basically mountainous hills
Swampland / River / Beach don't have hills. I think this is OK.
Ocean / FrozenOcean don't have hills. Until we get rolling seas, this is OK.
Hell and Sky are Nether and End, neither of which need more terrain variation.

The Hills are the chunky bits with cliffs, overhangs, plunges to certain death. In the latest snapshots the terrain smoothing has been wound back a bit so there's more oomph to them as well.

Quote from abrightmoore

(Cross post - I just realised two threads are feeding off each other, so munch on this)

Ok - 12w22a has the following biomes and parameters:

	("Ocean").b(-1F, 0.4F);
	("Plains").a(0.8F, 0.4F);
	("Desert").m().a(2.0F, 0.0F).b(0.1F, 0.2F);
	("Extreme Hills").b(0.3F, 1.5F).a(0.2F, 0.3F);
	("Forest").a(0x4eba31).a(0.7F, 0.8F);
	("Taiga").a(0x4eba31).b().a(0.05F, 0.8F).b(0.1F, 0.4F);
	("Swampland").a(0x8baf48).b(-0.2F, 0.1F).a(0.8F, 0.9F);
	("River").b(-0.5F, 0.0F);
	("Hell").m().a(2.0F, 0.0F);
	("Sky").m();
	("FrozenOcean").b().b(-1F, 0.5F).a(0.0F, 0.5F);
	("FrozenRiver").b().b(-0.5F, 0.0F).a(0.0F, 0.5F);
	("Ice Plains").b().a(0.0F, 0.5F);
	("Ice Mountains").b().b(0.3F, 1.3F).a(0.0F, 0.5F);
	("MushroomIsland").a(0.9F, 1.0F).b(0.2F, 1.0F);
	("MushroomIslandShore").a(0.9F, 1.0F).b(-1F, 0.1F);
	("Beach").a(0.8F, 0.4F).b(0.0F, 0.1F);
	("DesertHills").m().a(2.0F, 0.0F).b(0.3F, 0.8F);
	("ForestHills").a(0x4eba31).a(0.7F, 0.8F).b(0.3F, 0.7F);
	("TaigaHills").b().a(0x4eba31).a(0.05F, 0.8F).b(0.3F, 0.8F);
	("Extreme Hills Edge").b(0.2F, 0.8F).a(0.2F, 0.3F);
	("Jungle").a(0x537b09).a(1.2F, 0.9F).b(0.2F, 0.4F);
	("JungleHills").a(0x537b09).a(1.2F, 0.9F).b(1.8F, 0.5F);

This is what is now in the game:

Plains has Extreme Hills which have Extreme Hills Edge. Even the hills have hills!
Desert has DesertHills
Forest has ForestHills
Taiga has TaigaHills
Jungle has JungleHills
Ice Plains has Ice Mountains
MushroomIslandShore has MushroomIsland which is basically mountainous hills
Swampland / River / Beach don't have hills. I think this is OK.
Ocean / FrozenOcean don't have hills. Until we get rolling seas, this is OK.
Hell and Sky are Nether and End, neither of which need more terrain variation.

The Hills are the chunky bits with cliffs, overhangs, plunges to certain death. In the latest snapshots the terrain smoothing has been wound back a bit so there's more oomph to them as well.

Quote from abrightmoore

(Cross post - I just realised two threads are feeding off each other, so munch on this)

Ok - 12w22a has the following biomes and parameters:

	("Ocean").b(-1F, 0.4F);
	("Plains").a(0.8F, 0.4F);
	("Desert").m().a(2.0F, 0.0F).b(0.1F, 0.2F);
	("Extreme Hills").b(0.3F, 1.5F).a(0.2F, 0.3F);
	("Forest").a(0x4eba31).a(0.7F, 0.8F);
	("Taiga").a(0x4eba31).b().a(0.05F, 0.8F).b(0.1F, 0.4F);
	("Swampland").a(0x8baf48).b(-0.2F, 0.1F).a(0.8F, 0.9F);
	("River").b(-0.5F, 0.0F);
	("Hell").m().a(2.0F, 0.0F);
	("Sky").m();
	("FrozenOcean").b().b(-1F, 0.5F).a(0.0F, 0.5F);
	("FrozenRiver").b().b(-0.5F, 0.0F).a(0.0F, 0.5F);
	("Ice Plains").b().a(0.0F, 0.5F);
	("Ice Mountains").b().b(0.3F, 1.3F).a(0.0F, 0.5F);
	("MushroomIsland").a(0.9F, 1.0F).b(0.2F, 1.0F);
	("MushroomIslandShore").a(0.9F, 1.0F).b(-1F, 0.1F);
	("Beach").a(0.8F, 0.4F).b(0.0F, 0.1F);
	("DesertHills").m().a(2.0F, 0.0F).b(0.3F, 0.8F);
	("ForestHills").a(0x4eba31).a(0.7F, 0.8F).b(0.3F, 0.7F);
	("TaigaHills").b().a(0x4eba31).a(0.05F, 0.8F).b(0.3F, 0.8F);
	("Extreme Hills Edge").b(0.2F, 0.8F).a(0.2F, 0.3F);
	("Jungle").a(0x537b09).a(1.2F, 0.9F).b(0.2F, 0.4F);
	("JungleHills").a(0x537b09).a(1.2F, 0.9F).b(1.8F, 0.5F);

This is what is now in the game:

Plains has Extreme Hills which have Extreme Hills Edge. Even the hills have hills!
Desert has DesertHills
Forest has ForestHills
Taiga has TaigaHills
Jungle has JungleHills
Ice Plains has Ice Mountains
MushroomIslandShore has MushroomIsland which is basically mountainous hills
Swampland / River / Beach don't have hills. I think this is OK.
Ocean / FrozenOcean don't have hills. Until we get rolling seas, this is OK.
Hell and Sky are Nether and End, neither of which need more terrain variation.

The Hills are the chunky bits with cliffs, overhangs, plunges to certain death. In the latest snapshots the terrain smoothing has been wound back a bit so there's more oomph to them as well.

Hmmmmmmm a pic of these hills would be most appreciated so you can rest your case

We don't know if the hills in that code is the small pathetic hills we have now

And if they did added more hills it better not be spammed like hell, _{(cough... Extreme Hills biome... cough .... spam...cough)}

Yes. We need more variety within the biomes....they all look flat, and even extreme hills are getting lame.

Does anyone think that removing the X-hills biomes, while returning full basic height variation to the main biomes is a good idea? This way, mountains would not ALWAYS be spammed together.

I agree. I don't want specific biomes to have specific height variations, maybe except plains and mushroom island.