Apparently Notch was stressed out so he yelled at Yogscast...being a designer of an awesome game that sold over 4M copies does get stressful. [Rumor] Thats just what I heard, so don't get all up about in Notchs face either.
All yogscast fans rejoice!!
Now leave the case alone and stop yelling at Yogscast and Notch.
gUYS I'M SORRY ABOUT ALL THE MEAN STUFF I SAID. i WAS TIRED THOUGH SO ITS ALRIGHT, ALSO YOU DID ALL THE STUFF I SAID, NO I DON'T CARE IF MY SOURCE MAY OR MAY NOT BE CREDIBLE OR IF THAT SOURCE MAY OR MAY NOT BE MY OWN ASS.
He said he wasn't lieing, not that "no, the yogscast still did it."
He clearly stated that it was out of stress/fatigue and misunderstandings and that he wants to settle things with them personally.
Ok, full CONTEXT:
Notch: It's likely the entire Yogscast scenario is just stress related misunderstanding. I apologize for bringing it online before talking to them.
Clockworkfaerie: @notch ...Stress misunderstanding? Dude, you outright ****ing *lied* about what they said. Don't you dare pull that BS.
Notch: @clockworkfaerie I did not lie.
and:
Notch: Hey, @yogscast! I'm sorry about being a ****.
_AdmanX: @notch woah woah woah! they swore at kids!
Notch: @_AdmanX sure, but what I did wasn't nice.
Yes, and said he should have settled it in private. He has also said that everything he said was true...and there is still zero evidence for it.
It's a crap "apology." He's only apologizing for people seeing what he said, while maintaining that all he said was true (again, without evidence).
Seriously, if you have kids, would you accept this kind of apology for something they did? If you don't, when you were a kid would your parents have accepted it?
All this just makes Notch look worse, especially after selling the rights to the Yogscast's show behind their backs and only informing them a couple weeks before Minecon.
Seriously, why does it matter if they swore at little kids? If those little kids were fans of them, then those little kids have already heard them swearing and making sexual comments on their videos... Their videos aren't exactly rated "G" ya know..
Seriously, if you have kids, would you accept this kind of apology for something they did? If you don't, when you were a kid would your parents have accepted it?
I would never expect my child to apologise for telling the truth (Something notch still believes he has done) Yes he shouldnt have said it in public and for this he has apologised. But why should he apologise for telling the truth? I am aware there is no proof, but you don't seem to realise that the only reason he would need proof is to convince the lot of you, something which he doesn't need to do. The only thing that matters to him is whether or not he believes what he wrote. Rightly so in my opinion.
I would never expect my child to apologise for telling the truth (Something notch still believes he has done) Yes he shouldnt have said it in public and for this he has apologised. But why should he apologise for telling the truth? I am aware there is no proof, but you don't seem to realise that the only reason he would need proof is to convince the lot of you, something which he doesn't need to do.
Ahh, but your child has already said he misunderstood what happened. At that point he's basically said he wasn't saying the truth. Notch is trying to have it both ways. "I was wrong and misunderstood" and "but what I said was totally true." Those two statements are NOT consistent with each other.
Ahh, but your child has already said he misunderstood what happened. At that point he's basically said he wasn't saying the truth. Notch is trying to have it both ways. "I was wrong and misunderstood" and "but what I said was totally true." Those two statements are NOT consistent with each other.
He said it MAY have been a misunderstanding then later STATED that he did not lie. I know which statement sounds more sure.
Edit: Also, it's bad practice to use quote marks when you aren't actually quoting what they said
He said it MAY have been a misunderstanding then later STATED that he did not lie. I know which statement sounds more sure
Right, in other words he doesn't believe it is a misunderstanding at all. He is not telling the truth there. He's just trying to make it LOOK like he's apologizing without doing so.
This is like your kid getting up in the middle of school and yelling about how classmate Bob is a jerk, stole their stuff, spit in people's food, etc, etc. When everyone else is surprised and Bob's friends and teachers say he's a well-behaved student, your kid decides to apologize. He then says "I guess I misunderstood things, but Bob did all that stuff".
That's NOT an apology. We shouldn't act like it is.
If you want to continue to believe Notch told the truth, despite having zero evidence in his favor, then that's your call. But I am not going to pretend he apologized. At BEST he apologized for saying anything, then immediately went and said that everything he said was true, which completely undermines the tiny apology he did make.
Right, in other words he doesn't believe it is a misunderstanding at all. He is not telling the truth there. He's just trying to make it LOOK like he's apologizing without doing so.
This is like your kid getting up in the middle of school and yelling about how classmate Bob is a jerk, stole their stuff, spit in people's food, etc, etc. When everyone else is surprised and Bob's friends and teachers say he's a well-behaved student, your kid decides to apologize. He then says "I guess I misunderstood things, but Bob did all that stuff".
That's NOT an apology. We shouldn't act like it is.
If you want to continue to believe Notch told the truth, despite having zero evidence in his favor, then that's your call. But I am not going to pretend he apologized. At BEST he apologized for saying anything, then immediately went and said that everything he said was true, which completely undermines the tiny apology he did make.
In your analogy, if the kid firmly believes that Bob did infact do all this stuff, then the kid shouldnt apologise at all. If all of the other kids and teachers tell your child that bob is well behaved then your child would logically turn around and state that PERHAPS it was a missunderstanding, however still believing what he shouted out. He would say it was a missunderstanding to attempt to shut the fanbois (teachers and kids) up. When it didnt work and they all start then griefing your child calling him a liar? The child would turn around and state that he isnt lying.
I believe notch attempted to diffuse the situation by saying that it may have been a missunderstanding. When people then had a go at him for lying, her correctly turned around and stated that he wasn't lying at all. He obviously doesn't want to turn around and still say thats the yogscast did all of this, claiming it to be a possible misunderstanding is a vague way of saying that whilst he isnt wrong about them, perhaps we can forget about it. Thats my take on things anyway
Many people view lying as something that requires the intent to give false information. If this is Notch's view of what lying is, and at the time of the statements he truly believed those things has happened, then he did not in fact lie because he had no intention of spreading false information. By Notch's own logic, he was mistaken, misunderstood what had happened, but he did not lie.
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Stupid people say stupid things. Sometimes smart people say stupid things too. It's when the stupid people say smart things that life gets interesting.
Stop worrying about the poor children so much. They didn't go to the panel because they were bored, they went because they wanted to see the Yogscast in person. COULD they have been asked to tone down the language? Sure. But they weren't, and since they weren't, they went ahead with what was rehearsed and approved.
In the interview with Notch, they joked about Notch holding the mic, and where he got his practice, to which Notch replied that it was lots of masturbation. In the same interview, Notch started joking about Simon's mom, and basically took it a bit too far, in my opinion. But that's part of both Notch and the Yogscast's personalities to do, and while a little surprising, I accept it as just how they are.
So the end result here is, parents need to have better control over what their kids watch. Yogscast is not really appropriate for everyone, and neither is Notch. Fair enough? It just seems to me that Notch is being a hypocrite about the language and content of what was said, when he failed to restrain himself in an interview that he had to know would be seen by many of his fans, which include a fairly young audience.
Stop worrying about the poor children so much. They didn't go to the panel because they were bored, they went because they wanted to see the Yogscast in person. COULD they have been asked to tone down the language? Sure. But they weren't, and since they weren't, they went ahead with what was rehearsed and approved.
In the interview with Notch, they joked about Notch holding the mic, and where he got his practice, to which Notch replied that it was lots of masturbation. In the same interview, Notch started joking about Simon's mom, and basically took it a bit too far, in my opinion. But that's part of both Notch and the Yogscast's personalities to do, and while a little surprising, I accept it as just how they are.
So the end result here is, parents need to have better control over what their kids watch. Yogscast is not really appropriate for everyone, and neither is Notch. Fair enough? It just seems to me that Notch is being a hypocrite about the language and content of what was said, when he failed to restrain himself in an interview that he had to know would be seen by many of his fans, which include a fairly young audience.
The difference between swearing in an interview and swearing on stage is the thousands of kids in the audience. Sure the kids might see the video of the interview, but that isn't notch's responsibility. Similarly, it isn't the responsibility of a movie star swearing his head off in the latest blockbuster movie, it comes down to the parent's responsibility whether or not to allow their child to view the video. But that same movie star wouldn't go and swear live on stage at the oscars (if he had any credibility or common decency at least) because it's live and a family event.
Lots of people on the internet don't seem to grasp the simple differences between the internet and real life and the fact that you should have the common sense to act with a little more tact and common courtesy if you're faced with a youngster, or even the public in general.
https://twitter.com/#!/notch/status/139722432251568129
Apparently Notch was stressed out so he yelled at Yogscast...being a designer of an awesome game that sold over 4M copies does get stressful. [Rumor] Thats just what I heard, so don't get all up about in Notchs face either.
All yogscast fans rejoice!!
Now leave the case alone and stop yelling at Yogscast and Notch.
Indeed it is...
So...yeah. Still no proof for his accusations and a half-assed apology.
GJ at taking things out of context.
He said he wasn't lieing, not that "no, the yogscast still did it."
He clearly stated that it was out of stress/fatigue and misunderstandings and that he wants to settle things with them personally.
Come at me Fanboys.
Really no proof of this... but I guess it really doesn't matter in the long run.
Ok, full CONTEXT:
and:
Yes, and said he should have settled it in private. He has also said that everything he said was true...and there is still zero evidence for it.
It's a crap "apology." He's only apologizing for people seeing what he said, while maintaining that all he said was true (again, without evidence).
Seriously, if you have kids, would you accept this kind of apology for something they did? If you don't, when you were a kid would your parents have accepted it?
All this just makes Notch look worse, especially after selling the rights to the Yogscast's show behind their backs and only informing them a couple weeks before Minecon.
Proof or it didn't happen, GTFO
I would never expect my child to apologise for telling the truth (Something notch still believes he has done) Yes he shouldnt have said it in public and for this he has apologised. But why should he apologise for telling the truth? I am aware there is no proof, but you don't seem to realise that the only reason he would need proof is to convince the lot of you, something which he doesn't need to do. The only thing that matters to him is whether or not he believes what he wrote. Rightly so in my opinion.
Ahh, but your child has already said he misunderstood what happened. At that point he's basically said he wasn't saying the truth. Notch is trying to have it both ways. "I was wrong and misunderstood" and "but what I said was totally true." Those two statements are NOT consistent with each other.
He said it MAY have been a misunderstanding then later STATED that he did not lie. I know which statement sounds more sure.
Edit: Also, it's bad practice to use quote marks when you aren't actually quoting what they said
Right, in other words he doesn't believe it is a misunderstanding at all. He is not telling the truth there. He's just trying to make it LOOK like he's apologizing without doing so.
This is like your kid getting up in the middle of school and yelling about how classmate Bob is a jerk, stole their stuff, spit in people's food, etc, etc. When everyone else is surprised and Bob's friends and teachers say he's a well-behaved student, your kid decides to apologize. He then says "I guess I misunderstood things, but Bob did all that stuff".
That's NOT an apology. We shouldn't act like it is.
If you want to continue to believe Notch told the truth, despite having zero evidence in his favor, then that's your call. But I am not going to pretend he apologized. At BEST he apologized for saying anything, then immediately went and said that everything he said was true, which completely undermines the tiny apology he did make.
In your analogy, if the kid firmly believes that Bob did infact do all this stuff, then the kid shouldnt apologise at all. If all of the other kids and teachers tell your child that bob is well behaved then your child would logically turn around and state that PERHAPS it was a missunderstanding, however still believing what he shouted out. He would say it was a missunderstanding to attempt to shut the fanbois (teachers and kids) up. When it didnt work and they all start then griefing your child calling him a liar? The child would turn around and state that he isnt lying.
I believe notch attempted to diffuse the situation by saying that it may have been a missunderstanding. When people then had a go at him for lying, her correctly turned around and stated that he wasn't lying at all. He obviously doesn't want to turn around and still say thats the yogscast did all of this, claiming it to be a possible misunderstanding is a vague way of saying that whilst he isnt wrong about them, perhaps we can forget about it. Thats my take on things anyway
In the interview with Notch, they joked about Notch holding the mic, and where he got his practice, to which Notch replied that it was lots of masturbation. In the same interview, Notch started joking about Simon's mom, and basically took it a bit too far, in my opinion. But that's part of both Notch and the Yogscast's personalities to do, and while a little surprising, I accept it as just how they are.
So the end result here is, parents need to have better control over what their kids watch. Yogscast is not really appropriate for everyone, and neither is Notch. Fair enough? It just seems to me that Notch is being a hypocrite about the language and content of what was said, when he failed to restrain himself in an interview that he had to know would be seen by many of his fans, which include a fairly young audience.
The difference between swearing in an interview and swearing on stage is the thousands of kids in the audience. Sure the kids might see the video of the interview, but that isn't notch's responsibility. Similarly, it isn't the responsibility of a movie star swearing his head off in the latest blockbuster movie, it comes down to the parent's responsibility whether or not to allow their child to view the video. But that same movie star wouldn't go and swear live on stage at the oscars (if he had any credibility or common decency at least) because it's live and a family event.
Lots of people on the internet don't seem to grasp the simple differences between the internet and real life and the fact that you should have the common sense to act with a little more tact and common courtesy if you're faced with a youngster, or even the public in general.