If you noticed, Minecon had people from infants to people of age 77. I know for a fact that babies dont need to hear that. kids dont need to hear that. Teenagers and adults, well, thats up to them. Elders, DEFINETELY dont need to hear it. Elderly age is a time for respect, and dropping the f-bomb isnt respectful.
So, as much as i like the Yogscast, i dont blame Notch one bit.
To be fair it's still quite early. As far as I know Simon and Lewis haven't mentioned it yet and the only info we have is from notch's tweets.
They've been named now and there was something about them doing something to one of the signed shirts and demanding that they be paid to go to minecon. If that's true then they're being dicks.
Somehow I have trouble believing that they would demand payment? maybe I guess but I'm waiting for more proof before I just accept that, it seems so out of character, for Lewis at least.
I still think they should have kept the swearing to a minimum around the kids though. There were a lot at the convention and minecraft attracts a lot of minors.
Still think it's early to judge either way, it's possible that we shouldn't judge at all, just let what happens happen and enjoy minecraft (and yogscast if your into it)
If you noticed, Minecon had people from infants to people of age 77. I know for a fact that babies dont need to hear that. kids dont need to hear that. Teenagers and adults, well, thats up to them. Elders, DEFINETELY dont need to hear it. Elderly age is a time for respect, and dropping the f-bomb isnt respectful.
So, as much as i like the Yogscast, i dont blame Notch one bit.
While we're trending here, it's worth noting that the initial drop in Notch's twitter followers has already been mostly canceled out. I'm thinking the tides may have changed.
Then again, Yogcast still hasn't made their official statement. This may change the tides yet again. We don't know what will happen. Yay speculation!
To be fair it's still quite early. As far as I know Simon and Lewis haven't mentioned it yet and the only info we have is from notch's tweets.
They've been named now and there was something about them doing something to one of the signed shirts and demanding that they be paid to go to minecon. If that's true then they're being dicks.
Somehow I have trouble believing that they would demand payment? maybe I guess but I'm waiting for more proof before I just accept that, it seems so out of character, for Lewis at least.
I still think they should have kept the swearing to a minimum around the kids though. There were a lot at the convention and minecraft attracts a lot of minors.
Still think it's early to judge either way, or if we should judge at all
Surely the special guests of Minecon shouldn't have had to pay their own airfare. Taking trips like that is expensive, they can't expect all of their guests to be able to afford that. I can't think of any other show or convention where guests have to pay travel expenses.
I think the Notch being sued by Bethesda thing has shown me he's not a bad guy, I mean the whole time he never blamed the people in charge for what happened, joked about it, and then kept telling people on twitter and at minecon that he loves playing Skyrim (when he should have been backing his own game).
THIS.
How you conduct yourself in these situations speaks louder then who's "right" or not." Should notch have tweeted all the bile about yogs? Eh, probably not. But what's worse - yogs' behavior, or Notch calling them on it? I think any reasonable person would say the former.
But you know what the funniest part is? I've never even HEARD of yogscast until today. I heard of Minecraft by word of mouth, which is how it's been spreading for awhile now. So to the people who are saying MC is damaged/dead/will drop off in sales, etc., wow. If that isn't bias, I don't know what is.
People argue, people fight. And if you're well-known, OTHER people will take your fights and blow them a million times out of proportion. Strip all that away, and you're looking at two (okay, three) individuals having a dispute. Again - regardless of who's "right," how you conduct yourself in these situations speaks louder. That said, both sides here made mistakes, so if you're going to judge on those mistakes, then you may as well just disown both parties and go do something else with your time.
How you conduct yourself in these situations speaks louder then who's "right" or not." Should notch have tweeted all the bile about yogs? Eh, probably not. But what's worse - yogs' behavior, or Notch calling them on it? I think any reasonable person would say the former.
But you know what the funniest part is? I've never even HEARD of yogscast until today. I heard of Minecraft by word of mouth, which is how it's been spreading for awhile now. So to the people who are saying MC is damaged/dead/will drop off in sales, etc., wow. If that isn't bias, I don't know what is.
People argue, people fight. And if you're well-known, OTHER people will take your fights and blow them a million times out of proportion. Strip all that away, and you're looking at two (okay, three) individuals having a dispute. Again - regardless of who's "right," how you conduct yourself in these situations speaks louder. That said, both sides here made mistakes, so if you're going to judge on those mistakes, then you may as well just disown both parties and go do something else with your time.
Let's be fair about this. There was heavy lawyer involvement here. Bethseda is a big fish in the gaming world. How you act around a company like that verses some people from the internet are two completely different things.
They have lost over 30,000 subscribers in the passed 4 hours.
Again, even if that's true then that's not that much. Just a 2.5% change and it could easily reverse itself over the next few days. Don't blow it out of proportion.
When they have 1.2 MILLION subs, a hundred or so up or down means NOTHING.
It means something when they lose this many in such a small amount of time. Think about when more people come to know what happened. This is only the beginning (unless Noth is straight up lying, which I doubt).
It means something when they lose this many in such a small amount of time. Think about when more people come to know what happened. This is only the beginning (unless Noth is straight up lying, which I doubt).
We've only heard "what happened" from Notch, who apparently wrote some angry twitters in response to some Yogscast fans being angry with him. Any changes right now are only from people who assume Notch must be right about what he wrote and are therefore jumping the gun. Don't read into it too much.
Let's be fair about this. There was heavy lawyer involvement here. Bethseda is a big fish in the gaming world. How you act around a company like that verses some people from the internet are two completely different things.
Doesn't change the fact of the matter. If Notch had acted egotistical vs. Bethesda, I'd probably have been less enthused than I was when Mojang won the case. That kind of attitude damages your reputation. It's not a matter of who's the bigger fish - and you'll notice in his tweets, Notch certainly doesn't seem to care who's the bigger fish (or if he does, his mention of them as a "celebrity" would imply that he thinks they're bigger than he is).
The point is, one's manner has the power to transcend status.
The great Minecraft War of 2011. The great Notch of Sweden, creator of the world-wide phenomenon Minecraft, so rightfully accuses the supposedly unhumble and arrogant members of the Yogscast Simon and Lewis of being rude at the great amass of Minecraft fans called Minecon in the City of Lights. This then lead all of the Minecraft and Yogscast fans to duke it out on the world wide web. This then lead to the shut-down of Minecraft and the suicide of Notch and the Yogscast. There are still torrents containing Minecraft, but 'tis only a sad memoir of the game that could of been the most addictive and fun game... of all time.
If you noticed, Minecon had people from infants to people of age 77. I know for a fact that babies dont need to hear that. kids dont need to hear that. Teenagers and adults, well, thats up to them. Elders, DEFINETELY dont need to hear it. Elderly age is a time for respect, and dropping the f-bomb isnt respectful.
So, as much as i like the Yogscast, i dont blame Notch one bit.
They've been named now and there was something about them doing something to one of the signed shirts and demanding that they be paid to go to minecon. If that's true then they're being dicks.
Somehow I have trouble believing that they would demand payment? maybe I guess but I'm waiting for more proof before I just accept that, it seems so out of character, for Lewis at least.
I still think they should have kept the swearing to a minimum around the kids though. There were a lot at the convention and minecraft attracts a lot of minors.
Still think it's early to judge either way, it's possible that we shouldn't judge at all, just let what happens happen and enjoy minecraft (and yogscast if your into it)
This
**** MY COMP IS LAGGING.
Then again, Yogcast still hasn't made their official statement. This may change the tides yet again. We don't know what will happen. Yay speculation!
"sometimes, wizards are so awesome, it hurts"
Surely the special guests of Minecon shouldn't have had to pay their own airfare. Taking trips like that is expensive, they can't expect all of their guests to be able to afford that. I can't think of any other show or convention where guests have to pay travel expenses.
THIS.
How you conduct yourself in these situations speaks louder then who's "right" or not." Should notch have tweeted all the bile about yogs? Eh, probably not. But what's worse - yogs' behavior, or Notch calling them on it? I think any reasonable person would say the former.
But you know what the funniest part is? I've never even HEARD of yogscast until today. I heard of Minecraft by word of mouth, which is how it's been spreading for awhile now. So to the people who are saying MC is damaged/dead/will drop off in sales, etc., wow. If that isn't bias, I don't know what is.
People argue, people fight. And if you're well-known, OTHER people will take your fights and blow them a million times out of proportion. Strip all that away, and you're looking at two (okay, three) individuals having a dispute. Again - regardless of who's "right," how you conduct yourself in these situations speaks louder. That said, both sides here made mistakes, so if you're going to judge on those mistakes, then you may as well just disown both parties and go do something else with your time.
When they have 1.2 MILLION subs, a hundred or so up or down means NOTHING.
No they aren't.
And who cares if you unsubscribe right now? You can always re-subscribe...
Smh.
WOAH. IM SHOCKED.
everybody f-bombing unsub
They have lost over 30,000 subscribers in the passed 4 hours.
Let's be fair about this. There was heavy lawyer involvement here. Bethseda is a big fish in the gaming world. How you act around a company like that verses some people from the internet are two completely different things.
Again, even if that's true then that's not that much. Just a 2.5% change and it could easily reverse itself over the next few days. Don't blow it out of proportion.
It means something when they lose this many in such a small amount of time. Think about when more people come to know what happened. This is only the beginning (unless Noth is straight up lying, which I doubt).
We've only heard "what happened" from Notch, who apparently wrote some angry twitters in response to some Yogscast fans being angry with him. Any changes right now are only from people who assume Notch must be right about what he wrote and are therefore jumping the gun. Don't read into it too much.
http://twitter.com/#!/yogscast
Saying they will reply tomorrow when they get home
Doesn't change the fact of the matter. If Notch had acted egotistical vs. Bethesda, I'd probably have been less enthused than I was when Mojang won the case. That kind of attitude damages your reputation. It's not a matter of who's the bigger fish - and you'll notice in his tweets, Notch certainly doesn't seem to care who's the bigger fish (or if he does, his mention of them as a "celebrity" would imply that he thinks they're bigger than he is).
The point is, one's manner has the power to transcend status.
Some people aren't too good at math. Or maths, depending on where you're from.