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Great idea full support.

I'd rather we get pigmen that don't wear the same robes as NPC villagers, or even robes at all. Bare chested and wearing shorts and tiny straw hats (so we can see their ears) comes to mind as funnier.

Also, I'd not put them in the Nether but directly in the Overworld, and make them live in Straw houses in a new plains sub-biome full of wheat.

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I don't think we need the nether chest, nether furnace, and the gold anvils, and gold doors. It would be cool if they were nether brick doors instead. I support anyway. Btw, the nether pigmen villagers should be imune to lava, they do live in the nether.

The Netherbrick doors wouldn't make sense, honestly. You're asking fr a door made of bricks. A Quartz door would make more sense, but the Gold fit in with the other things. Also, if you look at the post, you'd see that I have all the custom items because vanilla ones make no sense here. MANY have agreed with this. Not to say I don't respect your opinion. Your opinion is most likely what Mojang will do. And they already are immune to fire and lava. It states that the bottom of my post.

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I'd rather we get pigmen that don't wear the same robes as NPC villagers, or even robes at all. Bare chested and wearing shorts and tiny straw hats (so we can see their ears) comes to mind as funnier.

Also, I'd not put them in the Nether but directly in the Overworld, and make them live in Straw houses in a new plains sub-biome full of wheat.

I like the shorts idea, but the whole point of them is to be in the Nether. There is no straw there, so no straw hats I'm afraid... But I DO like your suggestion. It just doesn't fit because it takes them out of the Nether.

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Yes. Cabbage.

I have an idea on how to implement books into the nether. Randomly, next to lava, there could be Hell Canes. And you use that to make hell paper. You make the normal book recipe, but with hell paper and a gold ingot. Gold ingot is the only thing I could think of xD

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I have an idea on how to implement books into the nether. Randomly, next to lava, there could be Hell Canes. And you use that to make hell paper. You make the normal book recipe, but with hell paper and a gold ingot. Gold ingot is the only thing I could think of xD

To be honest? I'm baffled at how I didn't think of that myself. Maybe they grown on gravel, like regular sugar canes grow on sand? I guess I could throw this together if you wanted. It's interesting. Maybe they're some sort of stone plant, and the books are thin but durable reedstone pages, strung together with golden thread, Hence the gold ingot? And you'd craft them with netherbrick to get a netherbrick bookcase? Give this comment some up-votes if you want me to add this to my post.

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To be honest? I'm baffled at how I didn't think of that myself. Maybe they grown on gravel, like regular sugar canes grow on sand? I guess I could throw this together if you wanted. It's interesting. Maybe they're some sort of stone plant, and the books are thin but durable reedstone pages, strung together with golden thread, Hence the gold ingot? And you'd craft them with netherbrick to get a netherbrick bookcase? Give this comment some up-votes if you want me to add this to my post.

Thanks for taking my suggestion into consideration! I like what you did with it. I think that would work! I would think the books would have a redish paper with a gold cover and back?


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Thanks for taking my suggestion into consideration! I like what you did with it. I think that would work! I would think the books would have a redish paper with a gold cover and back?


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Well, "Paper". I was going to go with stone, like, the reeds were a stone-plant. BUT, I guess if I have Nether Wheat, Nether Reeds work too. It'd be a paper like substance, but the paper would be red tinted white. More like pink, so it'd be legible.

Well, first off, I'll say I totally support this! Now, i have an idea- It Is a golden /gilded/gilden golem. Yes, it's basically a gold iron golem, but maybe to spruce it up it's be more humanoid? So, like a gold player type thingy? Because the zombie pigmen would attack them, they'd be just or more vulnerable than regular villagers! So, they'd need heavy duty protection! Also, where do the pigmen get gold in the first place? I think it's time they added an ore in the nether- gold! It make sense!

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Well, first off, I'll say I totally support this! Now, i have an idea- It Is a golden /gilded/gilden golem. Yes, it's basically a gold iron golem, but maybe to spruce it up it's be more humanoid? So, like a gold player type thingy? Because the zombie pigmen would attack them, they'd be just or more vulnerable than regular villagers! So, they'd need heavy duty protection! Also, where do the pigmen get gold in the first place? I think it's time they added an ore in the nether- gold! It make sense!

I was planning to add the Gold Golem, but I couldn't find a texture for it. It's very difficult. And then the Gold Ore. I have no idea where, but I don't mind having to slay Pigman Zombies for it. I guess I could SUGGEST the ore.

Things to add to post now:

• Nether Reeds, suggested by AronShark, for books in the Nether, because my Library was empty.
• Golden Golem, re-brought to my attenion by Arsnicthegreat, suggested by many.
• Nether Gold Ore, suggested by Arsnicthegreat (though I had considered it in the past), so it'd make sense for where all the Zombie Pigman got their swords.

I completely support this idea and would love to play minecraft with it, even with the netherrack houses and stuff because the nether brick by itself is very plain.

One thing I have to say is that instead of random gold ores around, it should be like quartz where the gold is inside netherrack and you can find it frequently. Granted, it will produce gold nuggets when smelting, but still an easy way to get gold

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I completely support this idea and would love to play minecraft with it, even with the netherrack houses and stuff because the nether brick by itself is very plain.

One thing I have to say is that instead of random gold ores around, it should be like quartz where the gold is inside netherrack and you can find it frequently. Granted, it will produce gold nuggets when smelting, but still an easy way to get gold

Well, currently, an easy way to get gold, is a dropper trap of Pigman Zombies, onto hoppers. But I DO like that suggestion. It would also explain why the Zombie Pigmen have nuggets instead of bars.

YOU sir have a supporter because i love the nether chests and furnaces , and the gold anvil RULESYOU sir have a supporter because i love the nether chests and furnaces , and the gold anvil RULES

so how will pigmen/zombie pigmen work? will zombie pigmen raid pigman villages? if not, how are zombie pigmen made?

generally I like the idea of nether villages, but it seems there are some inconsistencies to work out, which is why I assume they haven't been put in to begin with

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so how will pigmen/zombie pigmen work? will zombie pigmen raid pigman villages? if not, how are zombie pigmen made?

generally I like the idea of nether villages, but it seems there are some inconsistencies to work out, which is why I assume they haven't been put in to begin with

Pigman Zombies and Pigman work the same as Zombies and Villagers. No offense, but I don't get why you, and like, 5 other people can't put this together without me explaining it.

I agree with the chests thing, although implementing chests made of Nether materials would mean that the chests inside fortresses should be replaced by those new chests. But I suppose people at Mojang would find excessive to design a new set of items just because it's more logical, when the game already has many "acceptable breaks from reality".

What would pigmen trade anyway? I suppose the alchemist would buy different potion ingredients and would sell potions, and the blacksmith would buy gold and sell gold tools (useless, but they would fit with the theme), just like the Overworld blacksmith buys materials and sells tools made of those materials, and the Overworld priest enchants tools. Although maybe selling potions would make brewing pointless, even considering prices. I would move the glowstone sell offer to one of them, it's just weird that the priest is selling something he doesn't have access to.
Also... Would it be rare to make them buy items from the Overworld (mainly those that villagers are selling), and perhaps do a similar thing with the villagers from the Overworld?. It would state a difference between villagers and pigmen: what ones have in excess and is being sold, it's highly valued by the others because it isn't found in their world. I think pigmen would find glass very interesting, for example, since there's no (normal) sand in the Nether,

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There aren't any Blaze Spawners anywhere else. You'd still have to go there to find them. Also, though Netherbrick is now able to be made by the player, and the villages would have it, a Nether Fortress would still be a good source of it. And maybe if they add this, they won't add the Nether Wart farm. Because that IS a good point. But I think that the Blaze Spawners make it worth while enough.

I suppose it would depend on how rare these villages are. If they're rarer than fortresses, people will look for Nether Wart in what they find first, considering they'll have to go at some time to a fortress for a Blaze Rod anyway..

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I never said that the amount of items spawning would be definite. I kind of just chose a few random items that fir the description of what I thought would fit, and I threw them in there. And, why is it overpowered for the Blacksmith to have an anvil. I assume Overworld Villages always have them, so why not Nether Villages? It's not like it's a special anvil or anything. It's just gold. Though I really like the name "Golden Anvil". That sounds cool. Though about the Netherrack Fence and Stairs... you're like, the 5th person to say to change it. I like it this way. And I think it'd look bad if it was all made out of Netherbrick. I know that's not what YOU'RE saying, but others are saying it.

I think I wouldn't use Netherrack to build my house if I were a pigman. Netherrack is extremely fragile and, considering the Nether is full of fireball-shooting Ghasts, any house made of it can be easily destroyed. A house found in the Nether would be made of stronger materials.

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I like the shorts idea, but the whole point of them is to be in the Nether. There is no straw there, so no straw hats I'm afraid... But I DO like your suggestion. It just doesn't fit because it takes them out of the Nether.

Maybe hats made of Nether wheat?

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Pigman Zombies and Pigman work the same as Zombies and Villagers. No offense, but I don't get why you, and like, 5 other people can't put this together without me explaining it.

because that doesn't make sense. Zombie Pigmen are not hostile mobs to begin with, and if you have a siege situation as you do with zombies, it will end in a little over a minute with the entire village empty. There is no day/night cycle in the nether, and if it were implemented there is currently no way you could track it. So the siege would begin at random times, whether you are paying attention or not. If you do try to get involved, the zombie pigmen are so much stronger than the zombies that players without full diamond equipment don't stand much of a chance. If you don't have full diamond equipment, you can't sleep in a bed to skip the night.

Looking at the current mechanics of village generation, they are only in plains and deserts because they spawn well only on flat areas, so I would assume that if nether villages are put in, they would likely be spawned on top of lava lakes. That means if you're trying to fend off a siege, you also have the wonderfully constant threat of getting knocked into the lava at any point.

The same goes for the pigmen, and while they may not be damaged by lava, they will be under it, so you can't trade with them, nor can they breed, so they may as well be dead. Even without sieges, they will wander in on their own if overworld villages are any indication.



Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the idea and most of the things you have come up with here, these are just technical details to think about

I don't see why you have to be so against overworld materials anyway; having the busted nether portal as the town center (rather than a well) would indicate that they used to travel between dimensions often, their lack of ability is only a recent development.

After all, where exactly did the overworld villagers get carrots and potatoes? For that matter, how could nether villagers create nether brick? There is no material in the nether that can power a furnace except for lava, and you can't use lava without iron buckets.

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because that doesn't make sense. Zombie Pigmen are not hostile mobs to begin with, and if you have a siege situation as you do with zombies, it will end in a little over a minute with the entire village empty. There is no day/night cycle in the nether, and if it were implemented there is currently no way you could track it. So the siege would begin at random times, whether you are paying attention or not. If you do try to get involved, the zombie pigmen are so much stronger than the zombies that players without full diamond equipment don't stand much of a chance. If you don't have full diamond equipment, you can't sleep in a bed to skip the night.

Looking at the current mechanics of village generation, they are only in plains and deserts because they spawn well only on flat areas, so I would assume that if nether villages are put in, they would likely be spawned on top of lava lakes. That means if you're trying to fend off a siege, you also have the wonderfully constant threat of getting knocked into the lava at any point.

The same goes for the pigmen, and while they may not be damaged by lava, they will be under it, so you can't trade with them, nor can they breed, so they may as well be dead. Even without sieges, they will wander in on their own if overworld villages are any indication.



Don't get me wrong, I absolutely love the idea and most of the things you have come up with here, these are just technical details to think about

I already discussed this with another commenter. It's not EXACTLY the same. There are, of course, a few things making it possible to protect these guys.

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I don't see why you have to be so against overworld materials anyway; having the busted nether portal as the town center (rather than a well) would indicate that they used to travel between dimensions often, their lack of ability is only a recent development.

After all, where exactly did the overworld villagers get carrots and potatoes? For that matter, how could nether villagers create nether brick? There is no material in the nether that can power a furnace except for lava, and you can't use lava without iron buckets.

That's a good point, about the buckets. But the busted portal came later. That was a suggestion. Anything in spoilers was added in post, and was a suggestion by one of you guys.