GUYS, YOU DON'T EVEN REMOTLY UNDERSTAND THE CHANGES TO THE EULA! Read this to understand: http://www.minecraftforum.net/#article_1355
They changed the EULA so that you CAN monetize off of servers (With some rules), so this topic should be locked and deleted because it is completely wrong
For those misinformed, and I'll just try, just try to make this very obvious, these are the only 3 things that matter beyond delusional nonsense and exaggeration. There are smaller exceptions and such, but these are the biggest 3:
1.SERVERS CAN STILL ACCEPT SIMPLE DONATIONS
2. SERVERS CAN STILL GIVE OUT COSMETIC DETAILS FOR MONEY. (ex. "Donate $5 and you'll get this colored text in chat to show off!")
3. SERVERS CAN NOT GIVE OUT GAME CHANGING ITEMS OR MECHANICS FOR MONEY. (Ex. "Pay our server $10 and we'll give you 10 stacks of diamond blocks!" or "Pay us $25 and we'll give you the ability to fly!) THIS IS ALSO KNOWN AS "Pay-To-Win".
The idea is as long as the general feel of the server is the same for all players, you can do whatever you want to make a profit out of it. This should not be hard to understand. The fact that this thread was made to begin with just boggles my mind. These are the same EULA rules that have been around for the last 5 years, and people are just now acknowledging it now that they have reason to.
For those misinformed, and I'll just try, just try to make this very obvious, these are the only 3 things that matter beyond delusional nonsense and exaggeration. There are smaller exceptions and such, but these are the biggest 3:
1.SERVERS CAN STILL ACCEPT SIMPLE DONATIONS
2. SERVERS CAN STILL GIVE OUT COSMETIC DETAILS FOR MONEY. (ex. "Donate $5 and you'll get this colored text in chat to show off!")
3. SERVERS CAN NOT GIVE OUT GAME CHANGING ITEMS OR MECHANICS FOR MONEY. (Ex. "Pay our server $10 and we'll give you 10 stacks of diamond blocks!" or "Pay us $25 and we'll give you the ability to fly!) THIS IS ALSO KNOWN AS "Pay-To-Win".
The idea is as long as the general feel of the server is the same for all players, you can do whatever you want to make a profit out of it. This should not be hard to understand. The fact that this thread was made to begin with just boggles my mind. These are the same EULA rules that have been around for the last 5 years, and people are just now acknowledging it now that they have reason to.
You're not quite correct on your second point, they don't want people making capes for sale, but other cosmetic things are fine.
I am not quite sure on the happening my self people stating it was never changed ladidadida.
But I don't think people are seeing what Mojang are doing this and why. They're doing it for the users. Many people don't complain about Pay-To-Win in Minecraft because they are accustomed to it but as a PC gamer. I for one will stand up right and screw over any form of Pay To Win in and PC game, free or not. I have always been donators at KitPVP servers with their donators pretending to be pro or whatever when really they only win because they coughed up ~$100-$500.
Seeing Mojang doing this makes me happy but sad at the same time.
Think about all the creative plot servers or the other servers where no matter what you pay for it isn't pay to win due to the fact that you are not competing with others. I always thought that this would be a perfect line in the EULA which would help what is happening right now and what might make owners angry but honestly. Minecraft is starting to turn into a HUGE EA game. With micro-transactions galore.
Users are allowed to make money in the form of donations if those players use that many to extend the capiablility of their servers. i.e If one can donate for more plots then the many used from that donation can be used to making the server better and making it capable of holding another plot.
This statement may seem weird but imagine if a server got enough donation they had to give out thousands, ten of thousands or even millions of plots. They would need to upgrade their server and the money of that can come from donations which actually were used to make these plots.
Furthermore...
Players may not receive items from donations or certain special abilities as this will harm others experience.
That way I believe the EULA will finally be OK.
The only problem with this is the fact PVP servers will most likely shut down but I have a feeling that maybe others could add to this and make it work for PVP
The ammount of missinformation is this thread is sickening, never mind all the 12 year olds whining. To all those saying that this "change" will bring down tons of severs, all I can say is Good Riddance, servers that advertisment stacks of diamonds and other abilities for money are the tumours of this commmunity, they don't deserve to exist.
I would just like to point out that not all buyable gameplay features are over the top. There are surely small advantages that can be purchased on many servers.
This Eula will put down about 95% percent of servers , Im sure you don't want a majority of the servers to shut down.
I don't care if 95% of all Minecraft servers are shut down. There, I said it. I have a Realm, and that's good enough for me.
Most servers are only focused on PVP or PVE, which I think leaves out the greatest part of Minecraft.
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That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;
And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!
-The Gods Of The Copybook Headings, by Rudyard Kipling.
It should be locked now that Mojang have cleared up the issues.
Yes, it has gone beyond a simple discussion about a petition to Mojang about the EULA changes, and is basically the same discussion as the news topics:
They changed the EULA so that you CAN monetize off of servers (With some rules), so this topic should be locked and deleted because it is completely wrong
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You are very misinformed if you think 95% of servers would take a hit from this.
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1.SERVERS CAN STILL ACCEPT SIMPLE DONATIONS
2. SERVERS CAN STILL GIVE OUT COSMETIC DETAILS FOR MONEY. (ex. "Donate $5 and you'll get this colored text in chat to show off!")
3. SERVERS CAN NOT GIVE OUT GAME CHANGING ITEMS OR MECHANICS FOR MONEY. (Ex. "Pay our server $10 and we'll give you 10 stacks of diamond blocks!" or "Pay us $25 and we'll give you the ability to fly!) THIS IS ALSO KNOWN AS "Pay-To-Win".
The idea is as long as the general feel of the server is the same for all players, you can do whatever you want to make a profit out of it. This should not be hard to understand. The fact that this thread was made to begin with just boggles my mind. These are the same EULA rules that have been around for the last 5 years, and people are just now acknowledging it now that they have reason to.
You're not quite correct on your second point, they don't want people making capes for sale, but other cosmetic things are fine.
But I don't think people are seeing what Mojang are doing this and why. They're doing it for the users. Many people don't complain about Pay-To-Win in Minecraft because they are accustomed to it but as a PC gamer. I for one will stand up right and screw over any form of Pay To Win in and PC game, free or not. I have always been donators at KitPVP servers with their donators pretending to be pro or whatever when really they only win because they coughed up ~$100-$500.
Seeing Mojang doing this makes me happy but sad at the same time.
Think about all the creative plot servers or the other servers where no matter what you pay for it isn't pay to win due to the fact that you are not competing with others. I always thought that this would be a perfect line in the EULA which would help what is happening right now and what might make owners angry but honestly. Minecraft is starting to turn into a HUGE EA game. With micro-transactions galore.
Users are allowed to make money in the form of donations if those players use that many to extend the capiablility of their servers. i.e If one can donate for more plots then the many used from that donation can be used to making the server better and making it capable of holding another plot.
This statement may seem weird but imagine if a server got enough donation they had to give out thousands, ten of thousands or even millions of plots. They would need to upgrade their server and the money of that can come from donations which actually were used to make these plots.
Furthermore...
Players may not receive items from donations or certain special abilities as this will harm others experience.
That way I believe the EULA will finally be OK.
The only problem with this is the fact PVP servers will most likely shut down but I have a feeling that maybe others could add to this and make it work for PVP
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I don't care if 95% of all Minecraft servers are shut down. There, I said it. I have a Realm, and that's good enough for me.
Most servers are only focused on PVP or PVE, which I think leaves out the greatest part of Minecraft.
As it will be in the future, it was at the birth of Man
There are only four things certain since Social Progress began.
That the Dog returns to his Vomit and the Sow returns to her Mire,
And the burnt Fool's bandaged finger goes wabbling back to the Fire;
And that after this is accomplished, and the brave new world begins
When all men are paid for existing and no man must pay for his sins,
As surely as Water will wet us, as surely as Fire will burn,
The Gods of the Copybook Headings with terror and slaughter return!
-The Gods Of The Copybook Headings, by Rudyard Kipling.
That doesn't really make sense.... What part are servers leaving out? single player?
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ModeratorYes, it has gone beyond a simple discussion about a petition to Mojang about the EULA changes, and is basically the same discussion as the news topics:
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/2748251-eula-revisited-an-updated-qa-from-mojang/
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/2736587-mojang-announcement-eula-and-servers/
Locking for redundancy.
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