I agree with Sam, I too have tried contacting him, however have had no reply.
I would be very happy to work with him so long as we can keep working on the Dalek Mod.
I have responded repeatedly trying to work out a way that we could avoid feature clashes by doing things differently however with each and every one of those whatever agreement we settled on you did not honor. If you want to say that I never responded to you I will gladly copy and paste every single correspondance we have had together.
This may sound agressive and rightfully so, you are claiming that I dont respond. I responded to every single message up to the point where UDWF1 threatened to "take action against" me.
I am not a fan of hijacking threads but this needs to be said. You are feature squirrles riding our "behinds" checking everything we do and I am frankly sick of it.
You could claim to say "its doctor who we can do what you want." I fully respect this philosophy but when you do it within a week of us showing off the features like TARDIS text, Remat/Demat or in cases like Sontarans, we show a sneak of the sontaran model you immediatly add it.
I fully understand both are based on Doctor Who and they will have the same features but when it happens within a week of each other something is fishy and that is undeniable.
I also note that you are adding a planet selection menu, this is perfectly fine and I respect that.....but when you decide to call it the World Selection GUI that right there is wrong. You know full well that this is a prominant Doctor Who Client Mod feature by that exact name. It has been known by this name very publicly for over a year. Why? Why would you choose that name except to confuse players as to what project it is.
I have had nothing but respect for you over the last year, I admire the work you have done. Long ago almost at the start of your project I sent a message offering collaboration between the two projects and you agreed but then we did not hear from you for months which we thought nothing of and respected your decision not to join, it is your right and we admire peoples rights.
But after all of this, all of your lies and this amorral disgusting behavior I have had enough. I have held my tounge for several months and kept everything confined to our PMs. Now you say that I do not respond to your PMs is an absolute lie meant to make me look bad to your community. This is where there straw breaks the camels back. If you choose to lie and say that I do not respond when you yourselves THREATENED ME saying that If i responded to you that you would "take action."
All of what you have done in your project is respectable, your actions however are despicable and if you choose to keep making me look like the bad guy I will bring out everything that has happened in our conversations. Im done covering it up, and I am sick and tired of hiding features from my community for fear you will emulate it immediatly after we show it. At the advice of Planet Minecraft and MCF staff we have had to hide features and punish the community for your actions and Im done doing it.
When it comes down to it you yourselves admitted to me in one of those messages you said "he doesnt respond to" that you were afraid that when Doctor Who Client Mod comes out you will fade into obscurity. I belive that because of these fears you are doing your best to eliminate the varying differences between the projects any way you can which is fine but try to do it a bit less obvious and right after us. I am tired of having to worry about which feature we announce or show will be emulated. This worrying is now extended to what feature names of ours you will start calling yours. Yes, It is Doctor Who...yes it is not a copyrighted franchise and we have no claim....BUT....when you do all of this days or a week after us it is very obvious that you trying to avoid people choosing DWCM over Dalek Mod.
I have repeatedly tried to reach a resolution with you and repeatedly you have just kept doing the same old same old and now you are lieing about me "not" responding to you. I am done with hiding the facts from the communities. If you want to continue to spew your lies, do so I do not care just be aware of the fact that I am done sitting on my hands and biting my tounge.
To any community member reading this message, If you truely believe their statements that I do not respond to their comments after writing this very passionate and heartfelt message there is nothing I can do to convince you other than showing you screenshots of these converstations in which I genuienly approached them with ALWAYS peaceful intentions trying to come to some arrangment where we can avoid doing things the same way. This goes for staff as well...If you need the proof I will gladly show it if requested.
Enough is enough you two. I have endured death threats, hate mail and constant ignorance from certain members of your community (Mainly looking at you Time_Lord_Gamer.) I have been nothign but kind to all members of dalek mod community, even the ones who post "YOU SUCK, DALEK MOD RULES" 5 minutes after I say my friend died and I was taking a few days off. I have dealt with all these feature "coincidences" for far too long with out saying anything to the public while you continue to drag me into the mud.
To any PMC or MCF staff who see this as I am sure they will almost certainly report me for this, some of you are well aware of the situation and some of you have advised me to take the actions I have taken in the past. If you wish to punish me for this message, I will gladly take the infraction points. But please be aware that after all this the truth needed to be posted and the communities needed to be aware of what has really been going on. Concealing the truth has only caused repeated issues in the past.
I wish no harm to the Dalek Mod Community or even to UDWF1 and 1WTC and as I said repeatedly in the PMs you say I never respond to that I would never wish you to stop developing Dalek Mod. All I ever asked was to work with us and communicate with us to figure out a way we could avoid doing features the same way to which you always agreed to and never followed through with. All I ever wish for projects is for them to get along, there is no reason for there to be an issue or divide between the communities or projects. Collaboration and communication is the key to any project as is transparency. THIS Is me being transparent. If this offends you I am sorr from the bottom of my hearts, but it needed to be said.
I am not a fan of hijacking threads but this needs to be said. You are feature squirrles riding our "behinds" checking everything we do and I am frankly sick of it.
Checking Everything w do... Your the one Checking OUR forum!
Come on iKing! Its a mod! Im a huge Dalek Mod fan, But that doesnt mean i wont have a seperate jar that has DWCM on it. Im sure Im not the only one who will get both mods, just calm down. You wont lose Downloads to this mod!
Checking Everything w do... Your the one Checking OUR forum!
I REALLY want to stay neutral in this, but you can see the truth!
he realeases daily report on TARDIS HD Text.
Text is put on Dalek Mod TARDIS.
Dematerilsation/Rematerialisation is featured in DWCM trailer.
Demat/Remat is brought into the mod.
Grim daily report.
Trenzalore is made for Halloween update.
do you see the pattern?
you cant ignore the truth forever.
There's going to be a hurricane here in England, the part of the UK at the bottom. This means that people who live in Hayward's Heath, Burgess Hill, Brighton and a few other towns have a risk of having a power cut.
THIS MEANS NO INTERWEBZ!!!!!11!!!!1!!!!!!111!!!1!! DONT PANIC DONT PANIC DONT PANOC *panics*
I am part of those towns who could have power cuts. If I'm not posting from tommorow, it means that the hurricane has affected my area. If you wanna know how powerful it's gonna be, it's gonna be slightly less powerful than the Great Storm of '87. Right now the rain is literally pounding outside my room.
I don't know if 1WTC, UDFW1 or TG are gonna get affected.
Goodbye, hopefully I'll be able to watch Day of the Moon. FriedPuppy out.
EDIT: He just posted about a minute ago. Man, I got completely destroyed by irony.
I have responded repeatedly trying to work out a way that we could avoid feature clashes by doing things differently however with each and every one of those whatever agreement we settled on you did not honor. If you want to say that I never responded to you I will gladly copy and paste every single correspondance we have had together.
This may sound agressive and rightfully so, you are claiming that I dont respond. I responded to every single message up to the point where UDWF1 threatened to "take action against" me.
I am not a fan of hijacking threads but this needs to be said. You are feature squirrles riding our "behinds" checking everything we do and I am frankly sick of it.
You could claim to say "its doctor who we can do what you want." I fully respect this philosophy but when you do it within a week of us showing off the features like TARDIS text, Remat/Demat or in cases like Sontarans, we show a sneak of the sontaran model you immediatly add it.
I fully understand both are based on Doctor Who and they will have the same features but when it happens within a week of each other something is fishy and that is undeniable.
I also note that you are adding a planet selection menu, this is perfectly fine and I respect that.....but when you decide to call it the World Selection GUI that right there is wrong. You know full well that this is a prominant Doctor Who Client Mod feature by that exact name. It has been known by this name very publicly for over a year. Why? Why would you choose that name except to confuse players as to what project it is.
I have had nothing but respect for you over the last year, I admire the work you have done. Long ago almost at the start of your project I sent a message offering collaboration between the two projects and you agreed but then we did not hear from you for months which we thought nothing of and respected your decision not to join, it is your right and we admire peoples rights.
But after all of this, all of your lies and this amorral disgusting behavior I have had enough. I have held my tounge for several months and kept everything confined to our PMs. Now you say that I do not respond to your PMs is an absolute lie meant to make me look bad to your community. This is where there straw breaks the camels back. If you choose to lie and say that I do not respond when you yourselves THREATENED ME saying that If i responded to you that you would "take action."
All of what you have done in your project is respectable, your actions however are despicable and if you choose to keep making me look like the bad guy I will bring out everything that has happened in our conversations. Im done covering it up, and I am sick and tired of hiding features from my community for fear you will emulate it immediatly after we show it. At the advice of Planet Minecraft and MCF staff we have had to hide features and punish the community for your actions and Im done doing it.
When it comes down to it you yourselves admitted to me in one of those messages you said "he doesnt respond to" that you were afraid that when Doctor Who Client Mod comes out you will fade into obscurity. I belive that because of these fears you are doing your best to eliminate the varying differences between the projects any way you can which is fine but try to do it a bit less obvious and right after us. I am tired of having to worry about which feature we announce or show will be emulated. This worrying is now extended to what feature names of ours you will start calling yours. Yes, It is Doctor Who...yes it is not a copyrighted franchise and we have no claim....BUT....when you do all of this days or a week after us it is very obvious that you trying to avoid people choosing DWCM over Dalek Mod.
I have repeatedly tried to reach a resolution with you and repeatedly you have just kept doing the same old same old and now you are lieing about me "not" responding to you. I am done with hiding the facts from the communities. If you want to continue to spew your lies, do so I do not care just be aware of the fact that I am done sitting on my hands and biting my tounge.
To any community member reading this message, If you truely believe their statements that I do not respond to their comments after writing this very passionate and heartfelt message there is nothing I can do to convince you other than showing you screenshots of these converstations in which I genuienly approached them with ALWAYS peaceful intentions trying to come to some arrangment where we can avoid doing things the same way. This goes for staff as well...If you need the proof I will gladly show it if requested.
Enough is enough you two. I have endured death threats, hate mail and constant ignorance from certain members of your community (Mainly looking at you Time_Lord_Gamer.) I have been nothign but kind to all members of dalek mod community, even the ones who post "YOU SUCK, DALEK MOD RULES" 5 minutes after I say my friend died and I was taking a few days off. I have dealt with all these feature "coincidences" for far too long with out saying anything to the public while you continue to drag me into the mud.
To any PMC or MCF staff who see this as I am sure they will almost certainly report me for this, some of you are well aware of the situation and some of you have advised me to take the actions I have taken in the past. If you wish to punish me for this message, I will gladly take the infraction points. But please be aware that after all this the truth needed to be posted and the communities needed to be aware of what has really been going on. Concealing the truth has only caused repeated issues in the past.
I wish no harm to the Dalek Mod Community or even to UDWF1 and 1WTC and as I said repeatedly in the PMs you say I never respond to that I would never wish you to stop developing Dalek Mod. All I ever asked was to work with us and communicate with us to figure out a way we could avoid doing features the same way to which you always agreed to and never followed through with. All I ever wish for projects is for them to get along, there is no reason for there to be an issue or divide between the communities or projects. Collaboration and communication is the key to any project as is transparency. THIS Is me being transparent. If this offends you I am sorr from the bottom of my hearts, but it needed to be said.
i am neutral in this debate but i felt like i had to comment.
why can't the dalek mod and the dwcm just get along??????
the dalek mod adds mobs, mainly daleks, and a few other small features. sure more is being added, including features similar to the dwcm features, but the dalek mod still has a lot less in it then the dwcm. the dwcm completely turns minecraft into a completely new game.
no offense to either mod or anyone who supports or works for either mod, both mods are great, but can we stop insulting the people from the other mod, or insulting the other mod, posting about which mod we think is better, being rude to the other mod, or accusing people from the other mod of stealing or threatening? (not saying there were no thefts or threats just asking everyone to calm down.)
let's either work together, or ignore each other and tell the fans of both mods to do the same. ok? thanks you. sorry for the post, i felt like i needed to comment.
i am neutral in this debate but i felt like i had to comment.
why can't the dalek mod and the dwcm just get along??????
the dalek mod adds mobs, mainly daleks, and a few other small features. sure more is being added, including features similar to the dwcm features, but the dalek mod still has a lot less in it then the dwcm. the dwcm completely turns minecraft into a completely new game.
no offense to either mod or anyone who supports or works for either mod, both mods are great, but can we stop insulting the people from the other mod, or insulting the other mod, posting about which mod we think is better, being rude to the other mod, or accusing people from the other mod of stealing or threatening? (not saying there were no thefts or threats just asking everyone to calm down.)
let's either work together, or ignore each other and tell the fans of both mods to do the same. ok? thanks you. sorry for the post, i felt like i needed to comment.
i am neutral in this debate but i felt like i had to comment.
why can't the dalek mod and the dwcm just get along??????
the dalek mod adds mobs, mainly daleks, and a few other small features. sure more is being added, including features similar to the dwcm features, but the dalek mod still has a lot less in it then the dwcm. the dwcm completely turns minecraft into a completely new game.
no offense to either mod or anyone who supports or works for either mod, both mods are great, but can we stop insulting the people from the other mod, or insulting the other mod, posting about which mod we think is better, being rude to the other mod, or accusing people from the other mod of stealing or threatening? (not saying there were no thefts or threats just asking everyone to calm down.)
let's either work together, or ignore each other and tell the fans of both mods to do the same. ok? thanks you. sorry for the post, i felt like i needed to comment.
The only issue is that litterally one week (well, sometimes a bit more, but still) after the DWCM announces content, the Dalek Mod adds the something based on the feature into it...
i am neutral in this debate but i felt like i had to comment.
why can't the dalek mod and the dwcm just get along??????
the dalek mod adds mobs, mainly daleks, and a few other small features. sure more is being added, including features similar to the dwcm features, but the dalek mod still has a lot less in it then the dwcm. the dwcm completely turns minecraft into a completely new game.
no offense to either mod or anyone who supports or works for either mod, both mods are great, but can we stop insulting the people from the other mod, or insulting the other mod, posting about which mod we think is better, being rude to the other mod, or accusing people from the other mod of stealing or threatening? (not saying there were no thefts or threats just asking everyone to calm down.)
let's either work together, or ignore each other and tell the fans of both mods to do the same. ok? thanks you. sorry for the post, i felt like i needed to comment.
This is the smartest thing I've seen posted about this problem. If we can cooperate then each mod group should just ignore the other one. Also people it is a crime to spam people hatemail. It disgusts me to think that anyone would have a friend die, and turn on any of his electronics to see that he has more hatemail.
Fans of each mod, stop attacking each other and the mod developers. I personally can not recall ever hating on the DWCM team and if I did I am truly sorry.
Please people, I choose to remain nuetral. Please don't knit pick at my comment unless I TRUELY offended you or if you agree with me. I don't wish to be an annoyance.
Just as a note, we've tried getting along, it just hasn't worked.
well think of it this way. if someone stole something of yours, and kept stealing from you for weeks, would you say "ok" if he said "hey wanna be friends?"
This is the smartest thing ive seen posted about this problem. Let each mod group just ignore the other one. Also people it is a crime to spam people hatemail. I discusts me to think that anyone would have a friend die, and turn on any of his electronics to see that he has more hatemail.
Fans of each mod, stop attacking each other and the mod developers. I personally can not recall ever hating on the DWCM team and if I did I am truly sorry.
Please people, I choose to remain nuetral. Please don't knit pick at my comment onless I TRUELY offended you or if you agree with me. I don't wish to be an annoyance.
i completely agree. can we end this before it escalates even higher!
I believe both sides should just shut the hell up right now. iKing, UDWF1, 1WTC, you are all respectable modders and leaders of teams of modders. The mods are based on the same show so there will defiantly be similarities. Demat/remat obviously was going to be a feature. And trenzanor, sorry if I spelled it wrong, obviously remind people of Halloween. If someone sees an idea they like from the other mod it may spark their interst to add it. 1WTC and iKing, the name of the world selection GUI could so easily be used because it states what it obviously is. Not saying iKing will complain but if it the dalek mod's GUI was just called the Planet Selection GUI, you'd probably be mad for it being too similar. As I have said in the past multiple times, DWCM is an over haul and DM is an add on. That is a VERY obvious difference. Now, I do not want you two to butt heads anymore and I want fans from both sides to respect the other even if they don't want to or if they prefer the other side. And seriously, YouTubers, if you're going out of your way to insult either side, grow the hell up. Honestly. I know I said that I want that but everyone should want that. None of this is necessary at all.
In the 50th Anniversary Update The Regeneration Feature may be making a return!
Along with Bessie Finally being fixed, and another new Planet will be added!
And we are also working on a big World Selection GUI for the Tardis, which will look amazing!
the world selection GUI is in the doctor who client mod you should ask the Iking about if this is ok to put into the mod
B.T.W what does GUI stand for
Yeah I am South East, the area which is going to be hit the hardest, plus I am also on the coast as well, definitely staying up all night watching the storm out the window though! Haven't seen a good storm in about 10 years!
1WTC you should be ready to evacuate and opening your doors and windows doesn't actually affect anything it has been scientifically proven.
I have responded repeatedly trying to work out a way that we could avoid feature clashes by doing things differently however with each and every one of those whatever agreement we settled on you did not honor. If you want to say that I never responded to you I will gladly copy and paste every single correspondance we have had together. This may sound agressive and rightfully so, you are claiming that I dont respond. I responded to every single message up to the point where UDWF1 threatened to "take action against" me. I am not a fan of hijacking threads but this needs to be said. You are feature squirrles riding our "behinds" checking everything we do and I am frankly sick of it. You could claim to say "its doctor who we can do what you want." I fully respect this philosophy but when you do it within a week of us showing off the features like TARDIS text, Remat/Demat or in cases like Sontarans, we show a sneak of the sontaran model you immediatly add it. I fully understand both are based on Doctor Who and they will have the same features but when it happens within a week of each other something is fishy and that is undeniable. I also note that you are adding a planet selection menu, this is perfectly fine and I respect that.....but when you decide to call it the World Selection GUI that right there is wrong. You know full well that this is a prominant Doctor Who Client Mod feature by that exact name. It has been known by this name very publicly for over a year. Why? Why would you choose that name except to confuse players as to what project it is. I have had nothing but respect for you over the last year, I admire the work you have done. Long ago almost at the start of your project I sent a message offering collaboration between the two projects and you agreed but then we did not hear from you for months which we thought nothing of and respected your decision not to join, it is your right and we admire peoples rights. But after all of this, all of your lies and this amorral disgusting behavior I have had enough. I have held my tounge for several months and kept everything confined to our PMs. Now you say that I do not respond to your PMs is an absolute lie meant to make me look bad to your community. This is where there straw breaks the camels back. If you choose to lie and say that I do not respond when you yourselves THREATENED ME saying that If i responded to you that you would "take action." All of what you have done in your project is respectable, your actions however are despicable and if you choose to keep making me look like the bad guy I will bring out everything that has happened in our conversations. Im done covering it up, and I am sick and tired of hiding features from my community for fear you will emulate it immediatly after we show it. At the advice of Planet Minecraft and MCF staff we have had to hide features and punish the community for your actions and Im done doing it. When it comes down to it you yourselves admitted to me in one of those messages you said "he doesnt respond to" that you were afraid that when Doctor Who Client Mod comes out you will fade into obscurity. I belive that because of these fears you are doing your best to eliminate the varying differences between the projects any way you can which is fine but try to do it a bit less obvious and right after us. I am tired of having to worry about which feature we announce or show will be emulated. This worrying is now extended to what feature names of ours you will start calling yours. Yes, It is Doctor Who...yes it is not a copyrighted franchise and we have no claim....BUT....when you do all of this days or a week after us it is very obvious that you trying to avoid people choosing DWCM over Dalek Mod. I have repeatedly tried to reach a resolution with you and repeatedly you have just kept doing the same old same old and now you are lieing about me "not" responding to you. I am done with hiding the facts from the communities. If you want to continue to spew your lies, do so I do not care just be aware of the fact that I am done sitting on my hands and biting my tounge. To any community member reading this message, If you truely believe their statements that I do not respond to their comments after writing this very passionate and heartfelt message there is nothing I can do to convince you other than showing you screenshots of these converstations in which I genuienly approached them with ALWAYS peaceful intentions trying to come to some arrangment where we can avoid doing things the same way. This goes for staff as well...If you need the proof I will gladly show it if requested. Enough is enough you two. I have endured death threats, hate mail and constant ignorance from certain members of your community (Mainly looking at you Time_Lord_Gamer.) I have been nothign but kind to all members of dalek mod community, even the ones who post "YOU SUCK, DALEK MOD RULES" 5 minutes after I say my friend died and I was taking a few days off. I have dealt with all these feature "coincidences" for far too long with out saying anything to the public while you continue to drag me into the mud. To any PMC or MCF staff who see this as I am sure they will almost certainly report me for this, some of you are well aware of the situation and some of you have advised me to take the actions I have taken in the past. If you wish to punish me for this message, I will gladly take the infraction points. But please be aware that after all this the truth needed to be posted and the communities needed to be aware of what has really been going on. Concealing the truth has only caused repeated issues in the past. I wish no harm to the Dalek Mod Community or even to UDWF1 and 1WTC and as I said repeatedly in the PMs you say I never respond to that I would never wish you to stop developing Dalek Mod. All I ever asked was to work with us and communicate with us to figure out a way we could avoid doing features the same way to which you always agreed to and never followed through with. All I ever wish for projects is for them to get along, there is no reason for there to be an issue or divide between the communities or projects. Collaboration and communication is the key to any project as is transparency. THIS Is me being transparent. If this offends you I am sorr from the bottom of my hearts, but it needed to be said.
Hello Iking I feel so sorry for you that you got death threats and more hate mail right after your friend died R.I.P the worst is death threats just over an adition to a computer game no one should have to go through this and Everyone please stop fighting. about 2 years ago I was searching everywhere for a doctor who mod then I stumbled across the DWCM and read the description and was very excited then I saw that it wouldn't be released for another year so then I kept looking every now and then and checking the DWCM and found the dalek mod in february this year and was exited then I looked every day for updates here and now and again looked at the DWCM occasionaly then one day I saw the post about you Iking with people getting confused about the two mods and thought this will be ok and I knew nothing about the sontarans.but just today I saw the world selection GUI and thought I'd mention that it was in DWCM then I saw this post and felt so sorry more than the 10th doctor and thought I'd write this post and I don't like one mod more than the other and I hope everyone will just stop fighting so no one gets more upset please.and I'm sorry about your friend R.I.P.
1WTC you should be ready to evacuate and opening your doors and windows doesn't actually affect anything it has been scientifically proven.
Yes openining your doors and windows help, one word; Mythbusters.
PS (not aimed at you but to everyone) I WILL NOT COMMENT ON ANYTHING BY OR REALATED TO THE IKING !!!! END OF STORY.
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Oh, my God. Again, you as their own. DM and DWCM-two different modifications, and let's not sort out who copied what from whom. All copied from Doctor Who.
PS. Sorry for bad English
As I am here now I would first like to point out that I was not lying when I said he did not reply to me, I sent him a message on (29 September 2013 - 06:05 PM) and received no reply to this, this was a message regarding the Rendered Text on the Tardis, however to my knowledge UDWF1 also sent him a message around about the same time trying to work out a way of how we can solve these issues, one of with would be to go into a skype call and discuss it, however we never received any reply.
Now about the World Selection GUI (GUI stands for Graphical User Interface, for the person who asked), we have never stated that is what we are calling it, I only said "We are working on a big world selection GUI" I never said that was it's name, I am just stating that it is a GUI to selects worlds.
Finally about the features which people claim we stole, I had been wanting to add the rendered text to the Tardis ever since I first added the tardis into the mod (about 7 - 8 months ago) however at the time I was still learning Java, OpenGL and LWJGL and I didn't know hoe I could go about doing it, however mid September I started learning OpenGL and I realized that it wasn't that hard and from this I started doing tests on the Tardis to see if I could make it render better, and then the first release in October I had it how we wanted it so I released it, only to find that the iKing was not happy that we had added this as it looked lie we were copying him. The Tardis Remat / Demat feature was originally not going to be added I was just messing about in the Tardis renderer class and made a small video on it, however people seemed to like the feature so I developed it and kept it in. Now Trenzalore, we had Trenzalore planned for our Halloween update since about Mid August and we were really looking forward to starting work on it, we were also happy because the DWCM did not have Trenzalore, however a few days after we added it in and started posting the screenshots on the forums and people had guessed what it was the iKing released a video stating that the "Grim" was Trenzalore, so I do not see how we could of copied him, if he didn't even mention they had Trenzalore until we had finished it.
I do not want anymore of these messages about the DWCM here, I do not want any of the Dalek Mod community saying anything bad towards the iKing or their mod, stop posting this such as "Dalek Mod is so much better", iking doesn't need this spam on his forums, and I doubt he wants to deal with threats from the Dalek Mod community, same with me and Sam we also do not want to messages saying how we have stolen everything and how the DWCM is so much better and so on, if you have something negative to say don't say it, it only makes things worse for both of the teams.
The Lost Time Lords, Episode 1
I have responded repeatedly trying to work out a way that we could avoid feature clashes by doing things differently however with each and every one of those whatever agreement we settled on you did not honor. If you want to say that I never responded to you I will gladly copy and paste every single correspondance we have had together.
This may sound agressive and rightfully so, you are claiming that I dont respond. I responded to every single message up to the point where UDWF1 threatened to "take action against" me.
I am not a fan of hijacking threads but this needs to be said. You are feature squirrles riding our "behinds" checking everything we do and I am frankly sick of it.
You could claim to say "its doctor who we can do what you want." I fully respect this philosophy but when you do it within a week of us showing off the features like TARDIS text, Remat/Demat or in cases like Sontarans, we show a sneak of the sontaran model you immediatly add it.
I fully understand both are based on Doctor Who and they will have the same features but when it happens within a week of each other something is fishy and that is undeniable.
I also note that you are adding a planet selection menu, this is perfectly fine and I respect that.....but when you decide to call it the World Selection GUI that right there is wrong. You know full well that this is a prominant Doctor Who Client Mod feature by that exact name. It has been known by this name very publicly for over a year. Why? Why would you choose that name except to confuse players as to what project it is.
I have had nothing but respect for you over the last year, I admire the work you have done. Long ago almost at the start of your project I sent a message offering collaboration between the two projects and you agreed but then we did not hear from you for months which we thought nothing of and respected your decision not to join, it is your right and we admire peoples rights.
But after all of this, all of your lies and this amorral disgusting behavior I have had enough. I have held my tounge for several months and kept everything confined to our PMs. Now you say that I do not respond to your PMs is an absolute lie meant to make me look bad to your community. This is where there straw breaks the camels back. If you choose to lie and say that I do not respond when you yourselves THREATENED ME saying that If i responded to you that you would "take action."
All of what you have done in your project is respectable, your actions however are despicable and if you choose to keep making me look like the bad guy I will bring out everything that has happened in our conversations. Im done covering it up, and I am sick and tired of hiding features from my community for fear you will emulate it immediatly after we show it. At the advice of Planet Minecraft and MCF staff we have had to hide features and punish the community for your actions and Im done doing it.
When it comes down to it you yourselves admitted to me in one of those messages you said "he doesnt respond to" that you were afraid that when Doctor Who Client Mod comes out you will fade into obscurity. I belive that because of these fears you are doing your best to eliminate the varying differences between the projects any way you can which is fine but try to do it a bit less obvious and right after us. I am tired of having to worry about which feature we announce or show will be emulated. This worrying is now extended to what feature names of ours you will start calling yours. Yes, It is Doctor Who...yes it is not a copyrighted franchise and we have no claim....BUT....when you do all of this days or a week after us it is very obvious that you trying to avoid people choosing DWCM over Dalek Mod.
I have repeatedly tried to reach a resolution with you and repeatedly you have just kept doing the same old same old and now you are lieing about me "not" responding to you. I am done with hiding the facts from the communities. If you want to continue to spew your lies, do so I do not care just be aware of the fact that I am done sitting on my hands and biting my tounge.
To any community member reading this message, If you truely believe their statements that I do not respond to their comments after writing this very passionate and heartfelt message there is nothing I can do to convince you other than showing you screenshots of these converstations in which I genuienly approached them with ALWAYS peaceful intentions trying to come to some arrangment where we can avoid doing things the same way. This goes for staff as well...If you need the proof I will gladly show it if requested.
Enough is enough you two. I have endured death threats, hate mail and constant ignorance from certain members of your community (Mainly looking at you Time_Lord_Gamer.) I have been nothign but kind to all members of dalek mod community, even the ones who post "YOU SUCK, DALEK MOD RULES" 5 minutes after I say my friend died and I was taking a few days off. I have dealt with all these feature "coincidences" for far too long with out saying anything to the public while you continue to drag me into the mud.
To any PMC or MCF staff who see this as I am sure they will almost certainly report me for this, some of you are well aware of the situation and some of you have advised me to take the actions I have taken in the past. If you wish to punish me for this message, I will gladly take the infraction points. But please be aware that after all this the truth needed to be posted and the communities needed to be aware of what has really been going on. Concealing the truth has only caused repeated issues in the past.
I wish no harm to the Dalek Mod Community or even to UDWF1 and 1WTC and as I said repeatedly in the PMs you say I never respond to that I would never wish you to stop developing Dalek Mod. All I ever asked was to work with us and communicate with us to figure out a way we could avoid doing features the same way to which you always agreed to and never followed through with. All I ever wish for projects is for them to get along, there is no reason for there to be an issue or divide between the communities or projects. Collaboration and communication is the key to any project as is transparency. THIS Is me being transparent. If this offends you I am sorr from the bottom of my hearts, but it needed to be said.
Checking Everything w do... Your the one Checking OUR forum!
I REALLY want to stay neutral in this, but you can see the truth!
he realeases daily report on TARDIS HD Text.
Text is put on Dalek Mod TARDIS.
Dematerilsation/Rematerialisation is featured in DWCM trailer.
Demat/Remat is brought into the mod.
Grim daily report.
Trenzalore is made for Halloween update.
do you see the pattern?
you cant ignore the truth forever.
good luck UK!
i am neutral in this debate but i felt like i had to comment.
why can't the dalek mod and the dwcm just get along??????
the dalek mod adds mobs, mainly daleks, and a few other small features. sure more is being added, including features similar to the dwcm features, but the dalek mod still has a lot less in it then the dwcm. the dwcm completely turns minecraft into a completely new game.
no offense to either mod or anyone who supports or works for either mod, both mods are great, but can we stop insulting the people from the other mod, or insulting the other mod, posting about which mod we think is better, being rude to the other mod, or accusing people from the other mod of stealing or threatening? (not saying there were no thefts or threats just asking everyone to calm down.)
let's either work together, or ignore each other and tell the fans of both mods to do the same. ok? thanks you. sorry for the post, i felt like i needed to comment.
I 100% Agree
Just as a note, we've tried getting along, it just hasn't worked.
This is the smartest thing I've seen posted about this problem. If we can cooperate then each mod group should just ignore the other one. Also people it is a crime to spam people hatemail. It disgusts me to think that anyone would have a friend die, and turn on any of his electronics to see that he has more hatemail.
Fans of each mod, stop attacking each other and the mod developers. I personally can not recall ever hating on the DWCM team and if I did I am truly sorry.
Please people, I choose to remain nuetral. Please don't knit pick at my comment unless I TRUELY offended you or if you agree with me. I don't wish to be an annoyance.
look it up http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/1544398-152-forge-modloader-dalek-mod-updated-230513-modloader/
well think of it this way. if someone stole something of yours, and kept stealing from you for weeks, would you say "ok" if he said "hey wanna be friends?"
i completely agree. can we end this before it escalates even higher!
Wow. That was a mature comment.
B.T.W what does GUI stand for
Yes openining your doors and windows help, one word; Mythbusters.
PS (not aimed at you but to everyone) I WILL NOT COMMENT ON ANYTHING BY OR REALATED TO THE IKING !!!! END OF STORY.
*facepalm* yeah I guess your right my bad.
PS. Sorry for bad English
Now about the World Selection GUI (GUI stands for Graphical User Interface, for the person who asked), we have never stated that is what we are calling it, I only said "We are working on a big world selection GUI" I never said that was it's name, I am just stating that it is a GUI to selects worlds.
Finally about the features which people claim we stole, I had been wanting to add the rendered text to the Tardis ever since I first added the tardis into the mod (about 7 - 8 months ago) however at the time I was still learning Java, OpenGL and LWJGL and I didn't know hoe I could go about doing it, however mid September I started learning OpenGL and I realized that it wasn't that hard and from this I started doing tests on the Tardis to see if I could make it render better, and then the first release in October I had it how we wanted it so I released it, only to find that the iKing was not happy that we had added this as it looked lie we were copying him. The Tardis Remat / Demat feature was originally not going to be added I was just messing about in the Tardis renderer class and made a small video on it, however people seemed to like the feature so I developed it and kept it in. Now Trenzalore, we had Trenzalore planned for our Halloween update since about Mid August and we were really looking forward to starting work on it, we were also happy because the DWCM did not have Trenzalore, however a few days after we added it in and started posting the screenshots on the forums and people had guessed what it was the iKing released a video stating that the "Grim" was Trenzalore, so I do not see how we could of copied him, if he didn't even mention they had Trenzalore until we had finished it.
I do not want anymore of these messages about the DWCM here, I do not want any of the Dalek Mod community saying anything bad towards the iKing or their mod, stop posting this such as "Dalek Mod is so much better", iking doesn't need this spam on his forums, and I doubt he wants to deal with threats from the Dalek Mod community, same with me and Sam we also do not want to messages saying how we have stolen everything and how the DWCM is so much better and so on, if you have something negative to say don't say it, it only makes things worse for both of the teams.
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