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He's a mad man with a box
Ok, so what if he has a life?
Coding is just a hobby that he likes to do, and then you come here saying all this crap about him destroying EE2 when this is NOT EE2, if you want EE2 SO bad then go and ing code a whole new mod and stop annoying and insulting people because you can't make 100 diamonds early with the collector and the alchemical chest. He hasn't lost any fans, the EE2 fanboys that are still here and liking the way EE3 is going were the true fans, people like you who criticize that he's lazy should just go back to 1.2.5 and stay there forever.
I should not have replied, but your comment really made me mad, not just from what you said, but the fact that you want him to PRIORITIZE this over all his IRL stuff. Pah is an awesome modder, and you're going to come back crawling when the mod is near finished.
Like I said, If all this is is a little tinkering toy for Pahimar, it really ruins it for everyone else, as it will NEVER be finished. If the process continues as slow as this. NOTHING will be finished.
Also, your "no mans land" includes people like me that are becoming more jaded from witnessing the continual coming and going of "EE2 fans" bashing an uncompleted mod and "EE3 fans" praising an uncompleted mod, and all the infighting between the two unjustified extremes.
Also, your "no mans land" includes people like me that are becoming more jaded from witnessing the continual coming and going of "EE2 fans" bashing an uncompleted mod and "EE3 fans" praising an uncompleted mod, and all the infighting between the two unjustified extremes.
I agree. Why should you be mad about a mod that isn't done, and why would you be praising it like it's the greatest thing since sliced bread when only a sliver is done.
I'm glad I'm not living in your world of extremes. There's a lot more to it than blind hate and unconditional love.
One day you may realise that no matter what you think noone here owes you anything, and it's possible to show appreciation for someones work without "kissing their ass" (as you are so fond of putting it).
Well it wasn't extremes. If you don't love it or hate it, you're in no mans land.
If you are for Equivalent Exchange 3, good for you, just wait and see whats implemented and play with EE3. If your complaining about EE3 and how its a failure compaired to EE2, Reference my picture. Fuctional holding glasses in the sense as they can hold and display items, minimum stones, Semi-working philosopher stones, settled functions for a method of transmutation, and a few in developement machines. That for ONE person, holding aside small contributions, is a fine job, not to even say how he's working on a dynamic item valuing system, and a seperate IMC system. Hes also doing some texturing, working with forge and its minor bugs, and, overall making a big mod. If you think this mod will be a disapointment, Pahimar made most of Equivalent Exchange 2, excluding the start with x3n0, which is the mod your contrasting to a PRERELEASE. So, quit complaining and arguing, and enjoy the mod, leave, or backtrack and play with EE2, its your decision.
I have two questions,hope You will answer me:
1.Will full EE3 be on MC 1.4.7?
2.EE2 is closed mod,or just to update in future?
P.S.
3.WIll any full EE be on MC 1.4.7?[Yes,I AM playing 1.4.7.And I don't have plans (in near future,in longer propably yes)to update it to newest version,so,I hope there will be EE for this version.I like this mod,nearly love,and if I won't be able to play it with other cool mods(most are for 1.4.7),it will be for me like hit in my stupid mouth.]
P.S.#2
If You're not familiar with news about this mod,just don't say anything.I don't want any rumors.
1: EE3 is currently on 1.5.2, havent heard about any backports as of yet
2: Both X3noph0be (the creator of EE1 and EE2) and Pahimar (maintainer of EE2 and creator of EE3) have stated that EE2 will not be updated, and X3no recently stated that the source for EE2 is actually deleted
3: Currently only EE3 Pre1f is for 1.4.7, and as i said i have not heard anything from pahimar about backporting the finished EE3 to 1.4.7, and EE2 will not be updated.
Anyone can easily compare EE2 to EE3 in its current form and say EE2 is better. They aren't wrong. I'm not giving praise to an incomplete mod, I just don't want people comparing EE2 to the unfinished EE3. If EE3 ends up sucking, I'll say EE2 should be updated. Not saying it needs to be, I'm saying it should be, because I'm not entitled to tell Pahimar or x3n0 to make it. Well, ok, I'm entitled to be able to tell them, doesn't mean they'll do it.
Like I said, If all this is is a little tinkering toy for Pahimar, it really ruins it for everyone else, as it will NEVER be finished. If the process continues as slow as this. NOTHING will be finished.
I think that
It isn't. The process also isn't that slow. Have you looked at the link I gave you?
I have two questions,hope You will answer me:
1.Will full EE3 be on MC 1.4.7?
2.EE2 is closed mod,or just to update in future?
P.S.
3.WIll any full EE be on MC 1.4.7?[Yes,I AM playing 1.4.7.And I don't have plans (in near future,in longer propably yes)to update it to newest version,so,I hope there will be EE for this version.I like this mod,nearly love,and if I won't be able to play it with other cool mods(most are for 1.4.7),it will be for me like hit in my stupid mouth.]
P.S.#2
If You're not familiar with news about this mod,just don't say anything.I don't want any rumors.
Like I said, If all this is is a little tinkering toy for Pahimar, it really ruins it for everyone else, as it will NEVER be finished. If the process continues as slow as this. NOTHING will be finished.
I think that
Who cares if it will never be finished? EE2 was only ever 'finished' because he decided to scrap it and work on EE3... MINECRAFT itself isn't finished... 'Finishing' things basically means people stop working on it and do something else. Me? I don't want this mod to finish... reach EE2 level of complexity (items, blocks, mechanics)? Sure, finish? No.
I agree, it doesn't really ruin anything. If you don't like waiting for an ALPHA mod to reach Beta, or 'release' then don't play it. You're certainly welcome to go back to 1.2.5 and play the 'completed' EE2, but I'm sure you will have objections to that as well-I certainly would...
I agree. Why should you be mad about a mod that isn't done, and why would you be praising it like it's the greatest thing since sliced bread when only a sliver is done.
I agree with this as well. Although, it is ok to praise what has been done, so long as we recognise that we are solely praising the work that has been done (blocks, items, etc) rather than the ('completed') mod itself. And, really, comparing EE2 to EE3, or vica versa, is like comparing Halflife (1) to Halflife 3 (which hasn't been released yet)... Or the Sims 3 to the Sims 4... But it certainly ISN'T like comparing SimCity 4 to SimCity 2013 (the recent one that EA botched up).
In the end, seriously, guys, stop complaining that EE2 is gone. If you are so dead inside because of this then fill yourself with learning to rebuild it YOURSELF. Whining that a programmer, especially one who isn't even getting paid to do what you are complaining about, not doing what you want is more than stupid, it's anti-productive... Hell, he would be completely justified in saying that he was dropping the project altogether because of the number of whiny children in the forum (including myself, at times...) We are lucky that he hasn't...
Guys, I am sorry for whining so much, but the mod feels somewhat empty to me *shrugs* now I know you may think I have no point. But I like that the EE2 mod will be erased from Minecraft and HOPEFULLY existance, because then people could applaud this mod more. I hope some things may be somewhat "accelerated" like maybe 2 versions per Minecraft version? Just maybe something so the mod could be more "up to speed" with people. I am awesomely glad that EMC will be balanced, because if I can cheat in a somewhat legit way, then I would. Pahimar could maybe add a way to prevent change of an EMC value unless in the game, by the production so there shouldn't be CustomEMC/EMC.config or something like that to prevent a huge amount of cheating which will make the game "harder" because of the production so if you double output you can get half EMC values
Guys, I am sorry for whining so much, but the mod feels somewhat empty to me *shrugs* now I know you may think I have no point. But I like that the EE2 mod will be erased from Minecraft and HOPEFULLY existance, because then people could applaud this mod more. I hope some things may be somewhat "accelerated" like maybe 2 versions per Minecraft version? Just maybe something so the mod could be more "up to speed" with people. I am awesomely glad that EMC will be balanced, because if I can cheat in a somewhat legit way, then I would. Pahimar could maybe add a way to prevent change of an EMC value unless in the game, by the production so there shouldn't be CustomEMC/EMC.config or something like that to prevent a huge amount of cheating which will make the game "harder" because of the production so if you double output you can get half EMC values
Guys, I am sorry for whining so much, but the mod feels somewhat empty to me *shrugs* now I know you may think I have no point. But I like that the EE2 mod will be erased from Minecraft and HOPEFULLY existance, because then people could applaud this mod more. I hope some things may be somewhat "accelerated" like maybe 2 versions per Minecraft version? Just maybe something so the mod could be more "up to speed" with people. I am awesomely glad that EMC will be balanced, because if I can cheat in a somewhat legit way, then I would. Pahimar could maybe add a way to prevent change of an EMC value unless in the game, by the production so there shouldn't be CustomEMC/EMC.config or something like that to prevent a huge amount of cheating which will make the game "harder" because of the production so if you double output you can get half EMC values
I dont think that will work mainly because there will always be a way around it.
As per the OP
He's a mad man with a box
Sorry for being stupid, reading comments I thought it was never returning... again sorry for that waist of time.
*insert witty phrase here*
Just remember that the answer can often be found in the OP (the first post in the thread). And if its not, try searching for it. Although the forum search feature usually is useless, it often does help find posts that answer your question
He's a mad man with a box
I think that
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EE2 fans | } no mans land { | EE3 fans
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Pretty much the extent of what i'm seeing (Im on the EE2 side)
Nice formatting.
Also, your "no mans land" includes people like me that are becoming more jaded from witnessing the continual coming and going of "EE2 fans" bashing an uncompleted mod and "EE3 fans" praising an uncompleted mod, and all the infighting between the two unjustified extremes.
1: EE3 is currently on 1.5.2, havent heard about any backports as of yet
2: Both X3noph0be (the creator of EE1 and EE2) and Pahimar (maintainer of EE2 and creator of EE3) have stated that EE2 will not be updated, and X3no recently stated that the source for EE2 is actually deleted
3: Currently only EE3 Pre1f is for 1.4.7, and as i said i have not heard anything from pahimar about backporting the finished EE3 to 1.4.7, and EE2 will not be updated.
He's a mad man with a box
See the OP.
The modder cares.
We will answer that question as soon as the first official version with dynEMC in it is released (or maybe before).
It isn't. The process also isn't that slow. Have you looked at the link I gave you?
1) No.
2) Closed.
3) No.
Congrats for making a useless post.
Only time will tell, unless pahimar replies.
Who cares if it will never be finished? EE2 was only ever 'finished' because he decided to scrap it and work on EE3... MINECRAFT itself isn't finished... 'Finishing' things basically means people stop working on it and do something else. Me? I don't want this mod to finish... reach EE2 level of complexity (items, blocks, mechanics)? Sure, finish? No.
I agree, it doesn't really ruin anything. If you don't like waiting for an ALPHA mod to reach Beta, or 'release' then don't play it. You're certainly welcome to go back to 1.2.5 and play the 'completed' EE2, but I'm sure you will have objections to that as well-I certainly would...
I agree with this as well. Although, it is ok to praise what has been done, so long as we recognise that we are solely praising the work that has been done (blocks, items, etc) rather than the ('completed') mod itself. And, really, comparing EE2 to EE3, or vica versa, is like comparing Halflife (1) to Halflife 3 (which hasn't been released yet)... Or the Sims 3 to the Sims 4... But it certainly ISN'T like comparing SimCity 4 to SimCity 2013 (the recent one that EA botched up).
In the end, seriously, guys, stop complaining that EE2 is gone. If you are so dead inside because of this then fill yourself with learning to rebuild it YOURSELF. Whining that a programmer, especially one who isn't even getting paid to do what you are complaining about, not doing what you want is more than stupid, it's anti-productive... Hell, he would be completely justified in saying that he was dropping the project altogether because of the number of whiny children in the forum (including myself, at times...) We are lucky that he hasn't...