IGN:robospartanx Current rank on the server:A block Reason you were banned:"forcefielding" Warden/Alpha that issued your ban: Froot banned me Approximate time of ban:August 25th3:10 EST Why you deserve to be unbanned:I don't forcefield or hack for that matter! Froot, if you're gonna ban me for almost losing a fight because of lag, you shouldn't even be a guard. Seriously! I DONT HACK!! I had the lag too dude! Froot.. you could've at least asked! I was like WTF when i got the messgae saying that I hack! Any additional information:love this server! please unban i didn't do anyting wrong besides attack a guard and the game lagged! thanks guys.
"Froot could you give your side of the story on this? I remembered killing him really easily on the pyramid yesterday." -Mrlobby's quote.
This quote means nothing because you could have had forcefield turned off atm but turned it on for an advantage against froot. -Red's quote
Red, did you read my appeal? i bet you didn't because if you did you would've understood that i don't hack my client. if you want i video of me showing you my jar file then so be it. I will do anything to prove that i didn't hack. the current mods that i have installed are mod loader, optifine and the official mcpvp mod. seriously guys. please unban me! i didn't do anything!! D:<
I read you appeal, anyone can say anything on the internet. You could be lying, just like shaybrums.
Warden/Alpha that issued your ban: (N/A if you don't know)N/A
Approximate time of ban: (Include time zone) EST
Why you deserve to be unbanned: Because i am terrible with computers, cant install mods, and my computer cant get mods cause of its age and version. I also just dig random holes in the mine and somtimes get goods and mostly dont get anything. I run on a window vista, and if i try to use mods, my minecarft crashes every 5 seconds.
Any additional information: I dont use x-ray.
I was online with you and you were actually right next to me just mining straight down and then u disappeared! In skype i then hear "WTF WTF R U F&^%$&# KIDDING ME I DONT X-RA WHAT IS THIS SH!7" I then tried to get Noakii to listen to me and hear what I have to say... Of course even as a free Noakii treats everyone and i mean everyone other than a couple groups of people like crap. Totally ignored me until i started freaking out cuz i just realized all my money i have earned in the last 2 - 3 days is in shays bal because we are saving up to share a plot... Even tho i did not get banned I am hurt at the wrongs Noakii has committed not only to me but most people on this server. I hope shaybrums gets unbanned or I might ( most likely not ATM ) leave the server and find a new one like my friend Gorea27 has just decided to do.
This image shows Empirarte giving a random C prisoner a crap load of money to rank up and kill me after him being pissed off that I killed him. I then said he still can't kill me, then he said I will give him Diamond Armor to kill you. Isn't this against the rules to give prisoners that much money and stuff? This is a report for Empirarte to hopefully get him demoted for what he has done. (he is a horrible pvp'r for a guard BTW)
The only thing he can't give away is contraband. Nobody cares what he does with his money and other items.
i thought i could trust you guys. I thought you guys trusted me. But no. The world is a cruel, cruel place where noobs just complain and complain about losing. Froot i hope your happy. Sitting there watching yourself lag and then you ban me for no apparent reason without warning. What kind of a place is this where people cant tolerate lag? I dont hack. I swear on the river stix that if i ever hacked or hack or plan to hack minecraft that i may as well drop dead. Im still here. I hope that you guys can toughen up and quit whining about hacks. Its soooo sad watching you guys ban people because you lost a pvp fight to a guy with no armor. BIG DEAL. Its just a game! Why not let others enjoy it too? Ill say it one more time, and if your still not going to trust me, then you cant trust anyone. I give my word, i do not hack. Please unban.
1) IGN: Loco_Cocoa9613 2)Your age: 16 3)Howlong have you been playing the server?(Minimum of 3 days) 6 days 4)Have you read the Server,Prison,andGuardRules? Yes (I've also played through the tutorial and got a guide book by Noakii 5)Any experience with the prison genre? Aside from this server, no 6)Whatis your time zone? Central time zone 7)Why are you the best choice for guard? I believe I would make the server safer. I've seen many people get killed in C and I would like to help them so they would be safe. I also might go in B a lot because I've only seen one or two guards in there since I joined B and I've gotten killed a few times in there. I even called for guards but, they didn't come. 8)Whatis your current rank?Do you understand that we will require PROOF of your rank when/if you retirefrom guard? My current rank is A. Yes, I understand
P.S. I know this'll lower my chances of becoming a trainee but, I got to be honest. I share the computer with my siblings. I can't afford a computer now, so I just use the one my family uses. So at random times I might have to get off so someone else can use it.
If I can't be a trainee because of this, that sucks for me but, I just had to be honest.
This image shows Empirarte giving a random C prisoner a crap load of money to rank up and kill me after him being pissed off that I killed him. I then said he still can't kill me, then he said I will give him Diamond Armor to kill you. Isn't this against the rules to give prisoners that much money and stuff? This is a report for Empirarte to hopefully get him demoted for what he has done. (he is a horrible pvp'r for a guard BTW)
There are no rules in saying Guards can't give stuff to prisoners except contraband items. All he did was give dosh and Diamond armor away...
with this Giving away Stuff
Guards can give away anything but drugs and swords, bows
They can give away there money,
and with that kid killing a guard with nothing if he rushes in at the final second to kill thats should not count as winning a fight
~jumbo Out
This image shows Empirarte giving a random C prisoner a crap load of money to rank up and kill me after him being pissed off that I killed him. I then said he still can't kill me, then he said I will give him Diamond Armor to kill you. Isn't this against the rules to give prisoners that much money and stuff? This is a report for Empirarte to hopefully get him demoted for what he has done. (he is a horrible pvp'r for a guard BTW)
Well, to be honest, a guard exists to keep peace and hinder chaos (I know, big words), not to encourage killing of fellow prisoners. So even though it is not mentioned in the rules, and it was indirect, Empirarte's actions of not of those of a guard.
However, as he did not break any written rule in the first post, the punishment won't be as severe as a demote.
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Older men declare war. But it is the youth that must fight and die. -Herbert Hoover
Well, to be honest, a guard exists to keep peace and hinder chaos (I know, big words), not to encourage killing of fellow prisoners. So even though it is not mentioned in the rules, and it was indirect, Empirarte's actions of not of those of a guard.
However, as he did not break any written rule in the first post, the punishment won't be as severe as a demote.
Personally I see nothing wrong with what he did and do not believe he should be punished at all, some guards have done a lot worse
IGN: jmon94
Current rank on the server: Free
Reason you were banned: Xray
Warden/Alpha that issued your ban: (N/A if you don't know) AldronAran
Approximate time of ban: (Include time zone) 2:00am EST
Why you deserve to be unbanned: Anyone can say "I didn't xray." Anyone. So, really, what can I say for my argument?
The problem I have with this ban though, is Aldron has absolutely NO proof I xrayed other than his testimony. When I was Alpha (cue grandpa mode), and yes things have changed, but when I was Alpha I once submitted a ban report. I included a small snippet of video I managed to capture before he caught on. And you know what happened? The case was thrown out. Hell, the admins laughed. They said I didn't have nearly enough evidence, and MY WORD ALONE IS NOT SUFFICIENT.
I hope to God you have not changed your values, because that guy I captured may have been banned for nothing more than my poor judgement, and I hate to see that happen! Aldron has absolutely NO proof for his case, and while I have none to defend myself, the burden of proof lies on the accuser, not the accused. The accused does not have to do anything but refute any evidence the accuser gives them. All Aldron has is his own word, and that's simply not sufficient. I realize this isn't a court, it's a server on minecraft, but are we going to ban based on word? Who's to say he did not make a misjudgement? Who's to say he simply saw wrong? It's not fair to the players that I have to be banned. You may trust your Alphas, but dear God, it is NOT fair I have to be banned unjustly because of trust. Trust. Is. Not. Sufficient.
Demanding evidence for a ban is not that much to ask for. I did it all the time. Unless someone is BLATANTLY hacking that the whole server can testify for, it's ridiculous that you don't require evidence. There is at most, what, 1 ban a day? If we take away ban happy froot, that average drops drastically. Alphas are meant to be an extra eye, but not make such important decisions based on eyewitness alone. It is not difficult to launch fraps. A simple double click and F9 or whatever your hot key is will do the trick, and all parties will be happy.
If all this fails to convince you, consider this: If I truly am an xrayer, I'd obviously do it again when unbanned, correct? Maybe wait a few days, but still do it once again. So, give me ONE more chance. If they have proof I did it again, I'd be locked away forever. Proof of Xray is so simple: Fraps + Xray + Record = Instant Ban. So, I'd be banned in the very near future! Otherwise, I'm not a threat to the server, and shouldn't stay banned. This has been my all time favorite server, and I've contributed quite a bit to it. I wish to not be banned. I'm willing to sacrifice my inventory and money if you're still suspicious of me. Anything for this wonderful server.
Any additional information: I have a house and apartment to attend to! D: Think of the plants!
IGN: jmon94
Current rank on the server: Free
Reason you were banned: Xray
Warden/Alpha that issued your ban: (N/A if you don't know) AldronAran
Approximate time of ban: (Include time zone) 2:00am EST
Why you deserve to be unbanned: Anyone can say "I didn't xray." Anyone. So, really, what can I say for my argument?
The problem I have with this ban though, is Aldron has absolutely NO proof I xrayed other than his testimony. When I was Alpha (cue grandpa mode), and yes things have changed, but when I was Alpha I once submitted a ban report. I included a small snippet of video I managed to capture before he caught on. And you know what happened? The case was thrown out. Hell, the admins laughed. They said I didn't have nearly enough evidence, and MY WORD ALONE IS NOT SUFFICIENT.
I hope to God you have not changed your values, because that guy I captured may have been banned for nothing more than my poor judgement, and I hate to see that happen! Aldron has absolutely NO proof for his case, and while I have none to defend myself, the burden of proof lies on the accuser, not the accused. The accused does not have to do anything but refute any evidence the accuser gives them. All Aldron has is his own word, and that's simply not sufficient. I realize this isn't a court, it's a server on minecraft, but are we going to ban based on word? Who's to say he did not make a misjudgement? Who's to say he simply saw wrong? It's not fair to the players that I have to be banned. You may trust your Alphas, but dear God, it is NOT fair I have to be banned unjustly because of trust. Trust. Is. Not. Sufficient.
Demanding evidence for a ban is not that much to ask for. I did it all the time. Unless someone is BLATANTLY hacking that the whole server can testify for, it's ridiculous that you don't require evidence. There is at most, what, 1 ban a day? If we take away ban happy froot, that average drops drastically. Alphas are meant to be an extra eye, but not make such important decisions based on eyewitness alone. It is not difficult to launch fraps. A simple double click and F9 or whatever your hot key is will do the trick, and all parties will be happy.
If all this fails to convince you, consider this: If I truly am an xrayer, I'd obviously do it again when unbanned, correct? Maybe wait a few days, but still do it once again. So, give me ONE more chance. If they have proof I did it again, I'd be locked away forever. Proof of Xray is so simple: Fraps + Xray + Record = Instant Ban. So, I'd be banned in the very near future! Otherwise, I'm not a threat to the server, and shouldn't stay banned. This has been my all time favorite server, and I've contributed quite a bit to it. I wish to not be banned. I'm willing to sacrifice my inventory and money if you're still suspicious of me. Anything for this wonderful server.
Any additional information: I have a house and apartment to attend to! D: Think of the plants!
this is a great unban appeal
also i think that we can get alphas to have proof b4 ban I know some do but some dont
UNBAN THIS MAN/WOMAN
~jumbo out
IGN: jmon94
Current rank on the server: Free
Reason you were banned: Xray
Warden/Alpha that issued your ban: (N/A if you don't know) AldronAran
Approximate time of ban: (Include time zone) 2:00am EST
Why you deserve to be unbanned: Anyone can say "I didn't xray." Anyone. So, really, what can I say for my argument?
I know we had a lengthy discussion on this in game, Jmon, but I must say my peace for all to see.As time has gone on, wecome to trust in those given mod powers. I am lucky enough to be one of those few. While you hold to your belief that I have no "proof" to your actions, I hold to one simple fact: eye witness testimonies win cases. Whether reliable orotherwise, as long as someone is willing to admit to having witnessed the act, and make an accusation based upon what they saw, their word will more than likely be trusted. At this you have said that "Trust is not sufficient". Every judgement is based on the honor and trustworthiness of an appointed overseer. When the final call is made, it's truly up to them to decide the end all fate based on what is provided. When I say have the proof required to ban someone, I don't do so lightly. As I have said, there was another witness that can place me next to you during the act. What I saw was Xray, and I passed my judgement.
Your unban-app should convince people that you should be unbanned. What I read focused primarily on addressing that you don't agree with the fact that we focus our bans on trust in our moderators.I'm not saying that having video proof is a bad thing or a waste of time.However, I am saying that if we were to allow for that line of thinking, we'd spend more time doubting each others credibility than we would spend on actually taking care of anyone suspected of breaking the rules. The police and other law enforcement don't stop and say "Hey, I should stop, and record this man robbing or attacking someone, just in case someone doubts my actions later on".I will admit they have implemented front shield cameras in many modern squad cars, to help in the defense of an officer, but they are still trusted in their actions.
My final argument is that I was not promoted out of sheer need for more moderators. I was promoted because I was deemed capable and worthy of the position. To say my word or my proof by sight isn't trustworthy is to say that Viper and Noakii have misplaced their trust in me, and I take offense to that. I worked hard to earn their trust, and my position. I wouldn't sacrifice such trust or friendship for some kind of material gain, to which their is none for me. By banning you, I have accomplished nothing other than removing another rule breaker. I don't gain praise every time I ban someone. I don't get paid in-game salary based upon how many people I ban a month or day.And there is no quota as to how many bans I need under my belt before chance of another promotion. You even brought up this argument yourself. You say you had nothing to gain by Xraying, and that you couldn't possibly sacrifice that much for a few diamonds. The fact of the matter is, many people are banned, and they are in the same boat. "I would never do something to to get me banned, not with all I accomplished". "Why would someone of my experience take such a risk with my time and effort". Each of these excuses we hear constantly, and the end all fact is, no one is above the law, and no one is to good to commit a crime. These may seem like able alibis, but they hold no real consequence or any real weight. They are simple words to distract people from the fact that anyone is capable of performing such acts. You are no different than the others. Your ban is justified and is proven enough past reasonable doubt, simply because of my testimony. Now, this does not mean your testimony isn't going to hold weight either. If your reputation is as extensive as you say, than people will believe you are innocent, and your testimony might persuade them to promote your cause. When it comes to down to it, banning on multiplayer servers such as these, is only ever defended by testimonies. Having videos bolsters your testimony, but in the end its all reliant upon trust.
I know we had a lengthy discussion on this in game, Jmon, but I must say my peace for all to see.
As time has gone on, wecome to trust in those given mod powers. I am lucky enough to be one of those few. While you hold to your belief that I have no "proof" to your actions, I hold to one simple fact: eye witness testimonies win cases. Whether reliable orotherwise, as long as someone is willing to admit to having witnessed the act, and make an accusation based upon what they saw, their word will more than likely be trusted. At this you have said that "Trust is not sufficient". Every judgement is based on the honor and trustworthiness of an appointed overseer. When the final call is made, it's truly up to them to decide the end all fate based on what is provided. When I say have the proof required to ban someone, I don't do so lightly. As I have said, there was another witness that can place me next to you during the act. What I saw was Xray, and I passed my judgement.
Your unban-app should convince people that you should be unbanned. What I read focused primarily on addressing that you don't agree with the fact that we focus our bans on trust in our moderators.I'm not saying that having video proof is a bad thing or a waste of time.However, I am saying that if we were to allow for that line of thinking, we'd spend more time doubting each others credibility than we would spend on actually taking care of anyone suspected of breaking the rules. The police and other law enforcement don't stop and say "Hey, I should stop, and record this man robbing or attacking someone, just in case someone doubts my actions later on".I will admit they have implemented front shield cameras in many modern squad cars, to help in the defense of an officer, but they are still trusted in their actions.
My final argument is that I was not promoted out of sheer need for more moderators. I was promoted because I was deemed capable and worthy of the position. To say my word or my proof by sight isn't trustworthy is to say that Viper and Noakii have misplaced their trust in me, and I take offense to that. I worked hard to earn their trust, and my position. I wouldn't sacrifice such trust or friendship for some kind of material gain, to which their is none for me. By banning you, I have accomplished nothing other than removing another rule breaker. I don't gain praise every time I ban someone. I don't get paid in-game salary based upon how many people I ban a month or day.And there is no quota as to how many bans I need under my belt before chance of another promotion. You even brought up this argument yourself. You say you had nothing to gain by Xraying, and that you couldn't possibly sacrifice that much for a few diamonds. The fact of the matter is, many people are banned, and they are in the same boat. "I would never do something to to get me banned, not with all I accomplished". "Why would someone of my experience take such a risk with my time and effort". Each of these excuses we hear constantly, and the end all fact is, no one is above the law, and no one is to good to commit a crime. These may seem like able alibis, but they hold no real consequence or any real weight. They are simple words to distract people from the fact that anyone is capable of performing such acts. You are no different than the others. Your ban is justified and is proven enough past reasonable doubt, simply because of my testimony. Now, this does not mean your testimony isn't going to hold weight either. If your reputation is as extensive as you say, than people will believe you are innocent, and your testimony might persuade them to promote your cause. When it comes to down to it, banning on multiplayer servers such as these, is only ever defended by testimonies. Having videos bolsters your testimony, but in the end its all reliant upon trust.
Best of luck in your campaign for unban AldronAran "Waldo"
and THIS is why aldron is alpha. Good luck to jmon being unbanned, good luck to aldron being right, both of you have stated considerably good points.
About my sig, I just realised it in know way advertises the server and it doesn't say anything about or represent my status of Guard. If you could add some of this it would me greatly appreciated :3
IGN: jmon94
Current rank on the server: Free
Reason you were banned: Xray
Warden/Alpha that issued your ban: (N/A if you don't know) AldronAran
Approximate time of ban: (Include time zone) 2:00am EST
Why you deserve to be unbanned: Anyone can say "I didn't xray." Anyone. So, really, what can I say for my argument?
The problem I have with this ban though, is Aldron has absolutely NO proof I xrayed other than his testimony. When I was Alpha (cue grandpa mode), and yes things have changed, but when I was Alpha I once submitted a ban report. I included a small snippet of video I managed to capture before he caught on. And you know what happened? The case was thrown out. Hell, the admins laughed. They said I didn't have nearly enough evidence, and MY WORD ALONE IS NOT SUFFICIENT.
I hope to God you have not changed your values, because that guy I captured may have been banned for nothing more than my poor judgement, and I hate to see that happen! Aldron has absolutely NO proof for his case, and while I have none to defend myself, the burden of proof lies on the accuser, not the accused. The accused does not have to do anything but refute any evidence the accuser gives them. All Aldron has is his own word, and that's simply not sufficient. I realize this isn't a court, it's a server on minecraft, but are we going to ban based on word? Who's to say he did not make a misjudgement? Who's to say he simply saw wrong? It's not fair to the players that I have to be banned. You may trust your Alphas, but dear God, it is NOT fair I have to be banned unjustly because of trust. Trust. Is. Not. Sufficient.
Demanding evidence for a ban is not that much to ask for. I did it all the time. Unless someone is BLATANTLY hacking that the whole server can testify for, it's ridiculous that you don't require evidence. There is at most, what, 1 ban a day? If we take away ban happy froot, that average drops drastically. Alphas are meant to be an extra eye, but not make such important decisions based on eyewitness alone. It is not difficult to launch fraps. A simple double click and F9 or whatever your hot key is will do the trick, and all parties will be happy.
If all this fails to convince you, consider this: If I truly am an xrayer, I'd obviously do it again when unbanned, correct? Maybe wait a few days, but still do it once again. So, give me ONE more chance. If they have proof I did it again, I'd be locked away forever. Proof of Xray is so simple: Fraps + Xray + Record = Instant Ban. So, I'd be banned in the very near future! Otherwise, I'm not a threat to the server, and shouldn't stay banned. This has been my all time favorite server, and I've contributed quite a bit to it. I wish to not be banned. I'm willing to sacrifice my inventory and money if you're still suspicious of me. Anything for this wonderful server.
Any additional information: I have a house and apartment to attend to! D: Think of the plants!
1) IGN: Pjs1221 2)Your age: 13 3)Howlong have you been playing the server?(Minimum of 3 days): I have been playing this server for about 2 months. 4)Have you read the Server,Prison,andGuardRules?: Yes I have read it several times so that i have a thorough understanding. 5)Any experience with the prison genre?: Before this server, I have not. But after 2 months, I understand the prison format. 6)Whatis your time zone?: Pacific Standard Zone 7)Why are you the best choice for guard?: I am the best choice for guard because I want to protect the lower ranked players. As a player myself, I understand the frustration of being killed with items. The lower ranks take much longer to rank up because of frees killing them. I would like to help them by protecting them. Frustrated players can also tend to leave servers. I want to help this server to grow and obtain more players. I also consider myself a decent PVPer so I will not be hopelessly killed by stronger players. 8)Whatis your current rank?Do you understand that we will require PROOF of your rank when/if you retirefrom guard?: Yes. I am a Free rank at the moment. I have asked Jaakeyx to keep my rank picture.
1) IGN:Jordancool44 2)Your age:15 3)Howlong have you been playing the server?(Minimum of 3 days)about 6-7 months, it's been so long I really can't remember . 4)Have you read the Server,Prison,andGuardRules? I have read all 3 sets of rules thoroughly. 5)Any experience with the prison genre? Yes, i was an head-guard on trapped and guard on killion. 6)Whatis your time zone? Eastern standard Time 7)Why are you the best choice for guard? I am the best choice for guard because I've been guard on 2 other server with almost the exact same guard rules as convicted and I am a good at PvP. I am the best choice because I know how to handle all situations I'm put in and I enjoy helping people. I like playing on this server and would like to help the server and the community a little bit more by becoming a guard. I know how to keep prisoners in line and how to handle them. I haven't ever lost my cool and know not too. @@_NOAKII_@@ Recommendations:Guard: Mrlobby Player: Iabrams, bedanco26, shaybrums, naydog07, epicoman64 8)Whatis your current rank?Do you understand that we will require PROOF of your rank when/if you retirefrom guard? I am currently a free and will save and have taken a screenshot my rank for when/if i retire. (link below) http://i49.tinypic.com/x4ggls.png
When guards are in a fight, they often hit innocent people who are just standing there (unless they have some special aimbot).
Let´s make a chair out of cake!
Firstly, redrum gets promoted to alpha
A few minutes later, he gets demoted...
I really want to say, that we should choose the best and the trusted guards to be an alpha guard. You can't promote people who just can't handle stuff like that. I would also advise that we should have an extra rank so as to gain more trust. I think that the name "DeltaGuard" might sound cool for a rank just above guard and below Alphaguard. I would wish for the DeltaGuard to have the ability to mute spammers and can demote prisoners to D Block. This way, guards won't have to face such a big pressure or a big wave of excitement when choosing the guards to be promoted.
Edit: You don't wanna go down the path Chocants and John did...
I read you appeal, anyone can say anything on the internet. You could be lying, just like shaybrums.
The only thing he can't give away is contraband. Nobody cares what he does with his money and other items.
2) Your age: 16
3) How long have you been playing the server? (Minimum of 3 days) 6 days
4) Have you read the Server, Prison, and Guard Rules? Yes (I've also played through the tutorial and got a guide book by Noakii
5) Any experience with the prison genre? Aside from this server, no
6) What is your time zone? Central time zone
7) Why are you the best choice for guard? I believe I would make the server safer. I've seen many people get killed in C and I would like to help them so they would be safe. I also might go in B a lot because I've only seen one or two guards in there since I joined B and I've gotten killed a few times in there. I even called for guards but, they didn't come.
8) What is your current rank? Do you understand that we will require PROOF of your rank when/if you retirefrom guard? My current rank is A. Yes, I understand
P.S. I know this'll lower my chances of becoming a trainee but, I got to be honest. I share the computer with my siblings. I can't afford a computer now, so I just use the one my family uses. So at random times I might have to get off so someone else can use it.
If I can't be a trainee because of this, that sucks for me but, I just had to be honest.
There are no rules in saying Guards can't give stuff to prisoners except contraband items. All he did was give dosh and Diamond armor away...
Guards can give away anything but drugs and swords, bows
They can give away there money,
and with that kid killing a guard with nothing if he rushes in at the final second to kill thats should not count as winning a fight
~jumbo Out
So I may or may not be an end me
Well, to be honest, a guard exists to keep peace and hinder chaos (I know, big words), not to encourage killing of fellow prisoners. So even though it is not mentioned in the rules, and it was indirect, Empirarte's actions of not of those of a guard.
However, as he did not break any written rule in the first post, the punishment won't be as severe as a demote.
-Herbert Hoover
Personally I see nothing wrong with what he did and do not believe he should be punished at all, some guards have done a lot worse
Current rank on the server: Free
Reason you were banned: Xray
Warden/Alpha that issued your ban: (N/A if you don't know) AldronAran
Approximate time of ban: (Include time zone) 2:00am EST
Why you deserve to be unbanned: Anyone can say "I didn't xray." Anyone. So, really, what can I say for my argument?
The problem I have with this ban though, is Aldron has absolutely NO proof I xrayed other than his testimony. When I was Alpha (cue grandpa mode), and yes things have changed, but when I was Alpha I once submitted a ban report. I included a small snippet of video I managed to capture before he caught on. And you know what happened? The case was thrown out. Hell, the admins laughed. They said I didn't have nearly enough evidence, and MY WORD ALONE IS NOT SUFFICIENT.
I hope to God you have not changed your values, because that guy I captured may have been banned for nothing more than my poor judgement, and I hate to see that happen! Aldron has absolutely NO proof for his case, and while I have none to defend myself, the burden of proof lies on the accuser, not the accused. The accused does not have to do anything but refute any evidence the accuser gives them. All Aldron has is his own word, and that's simply not sufficient. I realize this isn't a court, it's a server on minecraft, but are we going to ban based on word? Who's to say he did not make a misjudgement? Who's to say he simply saw wrong? It's not fair to the players that I have to be banned. You may trust your Alphas, but dear God, it is NOT fair I have to be banned unjustly because of trust. Trust. Is. Not. Sufficient.
Demanding evidence for a ban is not that much to ask for. I did it all the time. Unless someone is BLATANTLY hacking that the whole server can testify for, it's ridiculous that you don't require evidence. There is at most, what, 1 ban a day? If we take away ban happy froot, that average drops drastically. Alphas are meant to be an extra eye, but not make such important decisions based on eyewitness alone. It is not difficult to launch fraps. A simple double click and F9 or whatever your hot key is will do the trick, and all parties will be happy.
If all this fails to convince you, consider this: If I truly am an xrayer, I'd obviously do it again when unbanned, correct? Maybe wait a few days, but still do it once again. So, give me ONE more chance. If they have proof I did it again, I'd be locked away forever. Proof of Xray is so simple: Fraps + Xray + Record = Instant Ban. So, I'd be banned in the very near future! Otherwise, I'm not a threat to the server, and shouldn't stay banned. This has been my all time favorite server, and I've contributed quite a bit to it. I wish to not be banned. I'm willing to sacrifice my inventory and money if you're still suspicious of me. Anything for this wonderful server.
Any additional information: I have a house and apartment to attend to! D: Think of the plants!
this is a great unban appeal
also i think that we can get alphas to have proof b4 ban I know some do but some dont
UNBAN THIS MAN/WOMAN
~jumbo out
So I may or may not be an end me
I know we had a lengthy discussion on this in game, Jmon, but I must say my peace for all to see. As time has gone on, we come to trust in those given mod powers. I am lucky enough to be one of those few. While you hold to your belief that I have no "proof" to your actions, I hold to one simple fact: eye witness testimonies win cases. Whether reliable or otherwise, as long as someone is willing to admit to having witnessed the act, and make an accusation based upon what they saw, their word will more than likely be trusted. At this you have said that "Trust is not sufficient". Every judgement is based on the honor and trustworthiness of an appointed overseer. When the final call is made, it's truly up to them to decide the end all fate based on what is provided. When I say have the proof required to ban someone, I don't do so lightly. As I have said, there was another witness that can place me next to you during the act. What I saw was Xray, and I passed my judgement.
Your unban-app should convince people that you should be unbanned. What I read focused primarily on addressing that you don't agree with the fact that we focus our bans on trust in our moderators. I'm not saying that having video proof is a bad thing or a waste of time. However, I am saying that if we were to allow for that line of thinking, we'd spend more time doubting each others credibility than we would spend on actually taking care of anyone suspected of breaking the rules. The police and other law enforcement don't stop and say "Hey, I should stop, and record this man robbing or attacking someone, just in case someone doubts my actions later on". I will admit they have implemented front shield cameras in many modern squad cars, to help in the defense of an officer, but they are still trusted in their actions.
My final argument is that I was not promoted out of sheer need for more moderators. I was promoted because I was deemed capable and worthy of the position. To say my word or my proof by sight isn't trustworthy is to say that Viper and Noakii have misplaced their trust in me, and I take offense to that. I worked hard to earn their trust, and my position. I wouldn't sacrifice such trust or friendship for some kind of material gain, to which their is none for me. By banning you, I have accomplished nothing other than removing another rule breaker. I don't gain praise every time I ban someone. I don't get paid in-game salary based upon how many people I ban a month or day. And there is no quota as to how many bans I need under my belt before chance of another promotion. You even brought up this argument yourself. You say you had nothing to gain by Xraying, and that you couldn't possibly sacrifice that much for a few diamonds. The fact of the matter is, many people are banned, and they are in the same boat. "I would never do something to to get me banned, not with all I accomplished". "Why would someone of my experience take such a risk with my time and effort". Each of these excuses we hear constantly, and the end all fact is, no one is above the law, and no one is to good to commit a crime. These may seem like able alibis, but they hold no real consequence or any real weight. They are simple words to distract people from the fact that anyone is capable of performing such acts. You are no different than the others. Your ban is justified and is proven enough past reasonable doubt, simply because of my testimony. Now, this does not mean your testimony isn't going to hold weight either. If your reputation is as extensive as you say, than people will believe you are innocent, and your testimony might persuade them to promote your cause. When it comes to down to it, banning on multiplayer servers such as these, is only ever defended by testimonies. Having videos bolsters your testimony, but in the end its all reliant upon trust.
Best of luck in your campaign for unban
AldronAran "Waldo"
and THIS is why aldron is alpha. Good luck to jmon being unbanned, good luck to aldron being right, both of you have stated considerably good points.
About my sig, I just realised it in know way advertises the server and it doesn't say anything about or represent my status of Guard. If you could add some of this it would me greatly appreciated :3
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Curse PremiumHavent seen jmon in a long time o_o
2) Your age: 13
3) How long have you been playing the server? (Minimum of 3 days): I have been playing this server for about 2 months.
4) Have you read the Server, Prison, and Guard Rules?: Yes I have read it several times so that i have a thorough understanding.
5) Any experience with the prison genre?: Before this server, I have not. But after 2 months, I understand the prison format.
6) What is your time zone?: Pacific Standard Zone
7) Why are you the best choice for guard?: I am the best choice for guard because I want to protect the lower ranked players. As a player myself, I understand the frustration of being killed with items. The lower ranks take much longer to rank up because of frees killing them. I would like to help them by protecting them. Frustrated players can also tend to leave servers. I want to help this server to grow and obtain more players. I also consider myself a decent PVPer so I will not be hopelessly killed by stronger players.
8) What is your current rank? Do you understand that we will require PROOF of your rank when/if you retirefrom guard?: Yes. I am a Free rank at the moment. I have asked Jaakeyx to keep my rank picture.
Noakii
2) Your age:15
3) How long have you been playing the server? (Minimum of 3 days)about 6-7 months, it's been so long I really can't remember
4) Have you read the Server, Prison, and Guard Rules? I have read all 3 sets of rules thoroughly.
5) Any experience with the prison genre? Yes, i was an head-guard on trapped and guard on killion.
6) What is your time zone? Eastern standard Time
7) Why are you the best choice for guard? I am the best choice for guard because I've been guard on 2 other server with almost the exact same guard rules as convicted and I am a good at PvP. I am the best choice because I know how to handle all situations I'm put in and I enjoy helping people. I like playing on this server and would like to help the server and the community a little bit more by becoming a guard. I know how to keep prisoners in line and how to handle them. I haven't ever lost my cool and know not too. @@_NOAKII_@@
Recommendations:Guard: Mrlobby
Player: Iabrams, bedanco26, shaybrums, naydog07, epicoman64
8) What is your current rank? Do you understand that we will require PROOF of your rank when/if you retirefrom guard?
I am currently a free and will save and have taken a screenshot my rank for when/if i retire. (link below)
http://i49.tinypic.com/x4ggls.png
Yes... I will buy it. And i prefer you hit me several times in the face with it.
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Curse PremiumFirstly, redrum gets promoted to alpha
A few minutes later, he gets demoted...
I really want to say, that we should choose the best and the trusted guards to be an alpha guard. You can't promote people who just can't handle stuff like that. I would also advise that we should have an extra rank so as to gain more trust. I think that the name "DeltaGuard" might sound cool for a rank just above guard and below Alphaguard. I would wish for the DeltaGuard to have the ability to mute spammers and can demote prisoners to D Block. This way, guards won't have to face such a big pressure or a big wave of excitement when choosing the guards to be promoted.
Edit: You don't wanna go down the path Chocants and John did...