It /seemed/ like you were ignoring us, I know valg and I keep talking about trying to at least get creative to rebuild a few weeks worth of work. We're not pissed about you having to reset the server because both of us understand **** happens. We're pissed because we lost everything we worked hard on. If you don't plan on giving us back our levels and xp or creative to rebuild what was lost, I'd like a refund of a donation and I'll take my business elsewhere. It's as simple as that. I'm sure everyone else who put time and effort into the old map will probably want the same thing back.
Ignore what? Please tell me what the issue is. I don't see why a simple map reset, WHICH I WAS FORCED INTO DOING AND HAD NO CHOICE, is reflecting upon peoples' view on how I run the server.
I only reset things that I had no choice to. If we were still on the hold server host THE SERVER WOULDN'T EVEN BE ONLINE YET.
Everything I do I do to make the server better. Sometimes there's obstacle which I have no way around, and I have to change the server up to maintain it.
Please, if you have an issue, tell me. Don't just say "Stop ignoring us", like wtf?
My problem's this - while it is definitely not your fault that your old host was shitty, the map got too huge to back up reliably and had to be switched over to a new one, none of that is on you and none of that's what we're complaining about. My problem is that everything that made the server great has pretty much gotten ****ed up as well. The lag is unbelievable, makes **** next to unplayable. I ****ing exploded 3 times trying to restart because everything would lag so bad for a solid minute that a creeper I never saw coming would ****ing lag-teleport right next to me. Or I'll be mining **** and then 20 of them will ****ing reappear. ****'s literally unplayable. Even if it wasn't - taking people who had played on the old server for weeks, supported it with donations and are dedicated enough to stick around, and expecting us to start with literally nothing - mcmmo levels reset to 0, balance reset to $0, inventories reset to empty, lost not just cities we'd worked on for****ingever and all the blocks mined, potions, xp, full enchanted diamond armor and tools and weapons.. honestly it sort of sucks, lol. I don't want to ragequit, server was awesome and would be if the lag were less ridiculous and if we got something more than being expected to restart from abso-****ing-lutely zero.
I'm not asking for unlimited access to worldedit or creative mode. But temporarily, when you've seen everything we did build legit and lost on the old map? Doesn't seem too unreasonable a request.
Let me list the conflicting things with your complaints.
1) I told Valg I would give him worldedit under my supervision. Apparently he took that as a "No you can't have worldedit".
2) When did anyone tell you you wouldn't be compensated for your lost work? I was intending to give each donator 200k, in the same currency standards as the old money, but I have yet to see anyone log on, because no one even gives the server a chance.
3) The lag must have been just at that time, because me and ~8 other people have been online all day and none of us are lagging. Maybe turn your graphics settings down?
4) At Twisted, "Business"? Seriously? You think I play Minecraft as a business? I play minecraft to play minecraft, it just so happens that running a run server through a host, keeping it online 24/7, requires money. If people want to help me pay for the server then so be it. It's not a ****ing business where I'm here to profit, and if you think that then I don't care if you leave. If you spent as much time complaining as you did trying out the new server, which in my opinion is better set up than previously, maybe you'd change your mind. It "/seemed/" like I was ignoring you? Did you expect me not to be busy reinstalling an entire server to a different host? This is a process.
You guys are amazing me at how mean you think I am. You don't even give me/the new server a chance.
Lag's not been just me, and it's definitely not the graphics settings, it was the server. Had been bad every time I would show up. Hell, if you want you could probably look at the server log if you'd like to see the other 5 or so people who had been online complaining "laaaaag" if you'd like some evidence it's not just me, heh. The ****ing sun was jumping backwards in the sky, chat messages taking 20+ seconds to show up, it was goddamned frustrating. That is likely why you've yet to see anyone log on. I saw plenty of people /trying./ But they'd get cheap-killed by laggy spiders and ragequit. That problem might be solved by now, I don't know, only got finished at work 10 minutes ago.
And hell, if I didn't want to give the server a chance, I probably wouldn't be here. I'm complaining about **** because I've seen how good **** was and expect it to be able to improve again. I complain because I give a ****. If I didn't, I'd just go find another server. Don't take it personal.
If you'd prefer giving creative mode access for a day or 2 I'd take that over worldedit, particularly since you've probably got better **** to do than watch me build some walls and //fillr them with dirt. And worldedit was something you weren't entirely clear on. You didn't say "Yeah sure just supervised so server doesn't get ****ed up if you do something stupid like turning spawn into a column of cacti lol" - you said people had asked for it before and it bit you in the ass, that you hated being asked and made to sound like the bad guy - nothing solid. Creative would also not have that risk of majorly ****ing up or lagging the server to death by changing shitload of blocks instantly, as well as have the ability to get our enchanted tools and armor back - that negotiable? 200k's nice but would be a hell of a lot nicer if there were actually a store with **** to spend it on, heh. I'm more concerned with the lv. 200+ in mcmmo skills. I'm pretty sure I had woodcutting at something like 180, mining and excavation both around 200, axes and archery were both decent, and that's **** that takes nothing but pain in the ass amount of time to regain, lol.
And yeah, no ****, you're busy. That's why I'm thinking some minimum level of trust and access to the tools to rebuild some of our **** ourselves, while you're doing other ****, would be damned nice. It is not your fault the server got ****ed over by the old host and no one's expecting **** to go back to 100% normal immediately. But as much as it sucks ass, it is sort of your responsibility to give people a reason to stick around, if you do want them to, while it gets **** back on track.
Well as I was on the last server for awhile, and I assume or thought was well liked, Thought I would throw my name in for the new server.
IGN:DrBloodCaK
How long have you been playing Minecraft: About 2 years now
What's rule #3?: Respect Others, we are all here to have fun
Any screenshots of things you've built in Minecraft: No not at current time. I can supply some stuff at later date.
Why you want to be Mod: I enjoy helping people and I enjoy this server. I would like to bring a fair and just mod to the new server.
What you like about the server: Everything really. So far I have no real complaints. The Cities of old were great and for the most part the people are great and helpful.
What three qualities you think a Mod should have: Fairness, the ability to go for bat for something he/she beleive would make the server better, and being available when he/she can to better the server.
What does Mod stand for: Moderator? Or truth, justice, and liberty for all?
What does Admin stand for: Administrator, or as I like to sat....."THE LAW"
Who is the owner of the server: The Great Almight "Ballistic_Knife"
Do you think this staff application is long: Nah not to bad....I did a job app once that was over 100 pages....that was too much. Name three plugins the server uses: mcMMO, Essentials, nocheatplus.
What's the name of the server: Untamed Survival. Explain what forcefield is in terms of Minecraft: It always one to mark off a section of blocks and assign them to certain "steves"
Bob had 4 goldenapples, but then he ate 2. He then found 5. How many does he have now: Name one thing you dislike about the server: Just the restart really....but with new beginnings come new opportunities.
What would you accomplish if you were a Mod on this server: I would help everyone out and try to make this server the best it can be.
How old are you(You don't have to answer): 25....I am old
Explain the process of how someone would get the rank of Citizen and Lord: To be a citizen one must Post IGN here and to become a Lord one must erect a city from a barren ground.
What is block ID 50: The human "TORCH"
What is the command you would use to permanently ban Bob123 for spamming offensive language: /permban Bob123 spamming offensive language.
Who is the creator of Minecraft: Some call him God....I call him Notch
What company is Minecraft from: Mohjang
Do you use a texture pack: Yes Doku
Are you annoyed that I'm asking so many questions: Nope you are the boss.
Anything else you would like to say: This is honestly one os the best servers I had ever been on. I loved the last way it was and if it's anything like the old server I can't wait for this wild ride.
Us arguing is so pointless and I think you know that, so thanks for not totally freaking out and being calm.
Sorry I wasn't more clear on worldedit earlier.
I think everything you said is reasonable and can be given to you/twisted/curry/people we agree deserve those things.
@Lag - The server can get laggy. This wasn't just recently, the old server had this happen multiple times. Remember how it crashes every once in a while? That's when the lag continues on and goes unattended. Sometimes it lasts a few hours. But this isn't the main reason there's a lack of people on the new IP - it's because it's a new IP. How often do you think people check the server thread for new IPs? I bet 95% of our player base couldn't even find this page if they tried. We just have to rebuild - and I've gotten a good start. I posted the new server on about ~8 more server lists today and we are getting more people.
I know you trust my judgement in terms of Minecraft at least somewhat, so trust me when I tell you I think this setup is going to be more enjoyable for everyone overall.
Oh, the shops? Of course I'm bringing them back. If you log in and checkout near the spawn you'll see the new shop I'm in the process of making - it's rather awesome if you ask me >:).
Like I said, all the things you said sound reasonable, just hit me up next time you see me in-game. As you can probably guess, most commands don't work with offline players.
Doing homework right now and got school tomorrow so I'll be getting off -
Well as I was on the last server for awhile, and I assume or thought was well liked, Thought I would throw my name in for the new server.
IGN:DrBloodCaK
How long have you been playing Minecraft: About 2 years now
What's rule #3?: Respect Others, we are all here to have fun
Any screenshots of things you've built in Minecraft: No not at current time. I can supply some stuff at later date.
Why you want to be Mod: I enjoy helping people and I enjoy this server. I would like to bring a fair and just mod to the new server.
What you like about the server: Everything really. So far I have no real complaints. The Cities of old were great and for the most part the people are great and helpful.
What three qualities you think a Mod should have: Fairness, the ability to go for bat for something he/she beleive would make the server better, and being available when he/she can to better the server.
What does Mod stand for: Moderator? Or truth, justice, and liberty for all?
What does Admin stand for: Administrator, or as I like to sat....."THE LAW"
Who is the owner of the server: The Great Almight "Ballistic_Knife"
Do you think this staff application is long: Nah not to bad....I did a job app once that was over 100 pages....that was too much. Name three plugins the server uses: mcMMO, Essentials, nocheatplus.
What's the name of the server: Untamed Survival. Explain what forcefield is in terms of Minecraft: It always one to mark off a section of blocks and assign them to certain "steves"
Bob had 4 goldenapples, but then he ate 2. He then found 5. How many does he have now: Name one thing you dislike about the server: Just the restart really....but with new beginnings come new opportunities.
What would you accomplish if you were a Mod on this server: I would help everyone out and try to make this server the best it can be.
How old are you(You don't have to answer): 25....I am old
Explain the process of how someone would get the rank of Citizen and Lord: To be a citizen one must Post IGN here and to become a Lord one must erect a city from a barren ground.
What is block ID 50: The human "TORCH"
What is the command you would use to permanently ban Bob123 for spamming offensive language: /permban Bob123 spamming offensive language.
Who is the creator of Minecraft: Some call him God....I call him Notch
What company is Minecraft from: Mohjang
Do you use a texture pack: Yes Doku
Are you annoyed that I'm asking so many questions: Nope you are the boss.
Anything else you would like to say: This is honestly one os the best servers I had ever been on. I loved the last way it was and if it's anything like the old server I can't wait for this wild ride.
Definitely will consider you when the server gets a bit more popular and staff is needed
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I may or may not be carrying a concealed Ballistic Knife.
..alright holy **** this is getting kind of insane.. Lag again was so bad yesterday that I'd be moving and lag would ****ing teleport me backwards - and although I had a home set, now again the /home command takes me to spawn. WTF is going on with this server?
..alright holy **** this is getting kind of insane.. Lag again was so bad yesterday that I'd be moving and lag would ****ing teleport me backwards - and although I had a home set, now again the /home command takes me to spawn. WTF is going on with this server?
None of this is happening to me.. you have to go on so I can see what the console is saying when you start lagging?
Hey I was FeistyPickle and I was gonna help on the parkour but i had to go... I hope you remember me Ballistic... I will be back tomorrow or some other time to help with development
I just love when people can't take jokes hahaha. They pretty much rage at you when they found out they've been pranked and become Mr.Sarcastic for the rest of the conversation. Just tried out the theory that my friend found out. He was dead on correct ;). So if you find someone who becomes sarcastic/bossy in a conversation, you found your joke-hater but to be honest, I think I made this guy so mad that he wants me demoted/banned at all costs xD
Anyway, on to the real reason I wanted to talk. I think we should make a few more ranks for the server so that players could keep on feeling the satisfaction of getting a new rank. I would also like to suggest a few plugins I have found if you would like ;). A few people were still complaining a tiny bit about the server changing a second time but I think it calmed down by now.
Now, the protection stones. I don't really think it's a good idea to make the protection stones blocks that some people can easily get with just a stone/iron pick. I think that will make a few people have advantages over some people by claiming extensive amounts of land while the other people just get small amounts due to their lack of diamond/gold/iron blocks.
Other than that I don't think I have many problems
@ssup, thanks for replying and stuffs I like the protect stones tho :L
I agree on the ranks. I'll add more definitely.
@Mod apps peoples, I don't reply to them. If I need another Mod and you're app was good and you're online often you'll become mod. I definitely don't like people who only play on my server if they're a Mod so there's no reason you need to know my response.
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Oh, Ssup, go to the spawn and read the rules on the protection blocks. I don't know how Ballistic is doing it, but he claims to have made it only possible for people to have 5 protection blocks laid at a time. Unless I read something wrong?
Hey Ball :3 I know that I already did it, but I just wanner re do it, since its a new server! I changed some answers.. Please fill this out if you want to become a Mod on the server. FOR MOD: IGN: RZB321 How long have you been playing Minecraft: Since early-ish Alpha What's rule #3?:Don't ask questions unless you've read the forums! Any screenshots of things you've built in Minecraft:My map is here: http://www.minecraft...hl__ tower pwn Why you want to be Mod:I played on the original server, back in 1.7.3, and love the new one! What you like about the server: I love the town-system and the players are nice. What three qualities you think a Mod should have: They should be responsible, and not abuse the power (i.e. not fly during PvP if they have the permission) What does Mod stand for: Moderator What does Admin stand for: Administrator Who is the owner of the server: Ballistic_Knife Do you think this staff application is long:A bit, but for good reason. Name three plugins the server uses: mcMMO, ChestShop, Minequery What's the name of the server: Untamed Survival Explain what forcefield is in terms of Minecraft: I'm honestly not sure, maybe a mod or plugin... Bob had 4 goldenapples, but then he ate 2. He then found 5. How many does he have now: 7. Name one thing you dislike about the server: That the old map was lost D: What would you accomplish if you were a Mod on this server: I would be on when other mods aren't so that it's always safe! How old are you(You don't have to answer): 14, but you know me, ballistic Explain the process of how someone would get the rank of Citizen and Lord: Citizen is by posting here on this thread, and Lord is if they start a city. What is block ID 50: A torch What is the command you would use to permanently ban Bob123 for spamming offensive language: /ban Bob123 Spamming offensive language Who is the creator of Minecraft: Marcus Persson (Notch) What company is Minecraft from: Mojang Do you use a texture pack: Nope, just default! Are you annoyed that I'm asking so many questions: Noooope! Anything else you would like to say: Even thought it's all lost, we can rebuild it! Thanks ballistic!
I'm not asking for unlimited access to worldedit or creative mode. But temporarily, when you've seen everything we did build legit and lost on the old map? Doesn't seem too unreasonable a request.
Let me list the conflicting things with your complaints.
1) I told Valg I would give him worldedit under my supervision. Apparently he took that as a "No you can't have worldedit".
2) When did anyone tell you you wouldn't be compensated for your lost work? I was intending to give each donator 200k, in the same currency standards as the old money, but I have yet to see anyone log on, because no one even gives the server a chance.
3) The lag must have been just at that time, because me and ~8 other people have been online all day and none of us are lagging. Maybe turn your graphics settings down?
4) At Twisted, "Business"? Seriously? You think I play Minecraft as a business? I play minecraft to play minecraft, it just so happens that running a run server through a host, keeping it online 24/7, requires money. If people want to help me pay for the server then so be it. It's not a ****ing business where I'm here to profit, and if you think that then I don't care if you leave. If you spent as much time complaining as you did trying out the new server, which in my opinion is better set up than previously, maybe you'd change your mind. It "/seemed/" like I was ignoring you? Did you expect me not to be busy reinstalling an entire server to a different host? This is a process.
You guys are amazing me at how mean you think I am. You don't even give me/the new server a chance.
And hell, if I didn't want to give the server a chance, I probably wouldn't be here. I'm complaining about **** because I've seen how good **** was and expect it to be able to improve again. I complain because I give a ****. If I didn't, I'd just go find another server. Don't take it personal.
If you'd prefer giving creative mode access for a day or 2 I'd take that over worldedit, particularly since you've probably got better **** to do than watch me build some walls and //fillr them with dirt. And worldedit was something you weren't entirely clear on. You didn't say "Yeah sure just supervised so server doesn't get ****ed up if you do something stupid like turning spawn into a column of cacti lol" - you said people had asked for it before and it bit you in the ass, that you hated being asked and made to sound like the bad guy - nothing solid. Creative would also not have that risk of majorly ****ing up or lagging the server to death by changing shitload of blocks instantly, as well as have the ability to get our enchanted tools and armor back - that negotiable? 200k's nice but would be a hell of a lot nicer if there were actually a store with **** to spend it on, heh. I'm more concerned with the lv. 200+ in mcmmo skills. I'm pretty sure I had woodcutting at something like 180, mining and excavation both around 200, axes and archery were both decent, and that's **** that takes nothing but pain in the ass amount of time to regain, lol.
And yeah, no ****, you're busy. That's why I'm thinking some minimum level of trust and access to the tools to rebuild some of our **** ourselves, while you're doing other ****, would be damned nice. It is not your fault the server got ****ed over by the old host and no one's expecting **** to go back to 100% normal immediately. But as much as it sucks ass, it is sort of your responsibility to give people a reason to stick around, if you do want them to, while it gets **** back on track.
IGN:DrBloodCaK
How long have you been playing Minecraft: About 2 years now
What's rule #3?: Respect Others, we are all here to have fun
Any screenshots of things you've built in Minecraft: No not at current time. I can supply some stuff at later date.
Why you want to be Mod: I enjoy helping people and I enjoy this server. I would like to bring a fair and just mod to the new server.
What you like about the server: Everything really. So far I have no real complaints. The Cities of old were great and for the most part the people are great and helpful.
What three qualities you think a Mod should have: Fairness, the ability to go for bat for something he/she beleive would make the server better, and being available when he/she can to better the server.
What does Mod stand for: Moderator? Or truth, justice, and liberty for all?
What does Admin stand for: Administrator, or as I like to sat....."THE LAW"
Who is the owner of the server: The Great Almight "Ballistic_Knife"
Do you think this staff application is long: Nah not to bad....I did a job app once that was over 100 pages....that was too much.
Name three plugins the server uses: mcMMO, Essentials, nocheatplus.
What's the name of the server: Untamed Survival.
Explain what forcefield is in terms of Minecraft: It always one to mark off a section of blocks and assign them to certain "steves"
Bob had 4 goldenapples, but then he ate 2. He then found 5. How many does he have now:
Name one thing you dislike about the server: Just the restart really....but with new beginnings come new opportunities.
What would you accomplish if you were a Mod on this server: I would help everyone out and try to make this server the best it can be.
How old are you(You don't have to answer): 25....I am old
Explain the process of how someone would get the rank of Citizen and Lord: To be a citizen one must
Post IGN here and to become a Lord one must erect a city from a barren ground.
What is block ID 50: The human "TORCH"
What is the command you would use to permanently ban Bob123 for spamming offensive language: /permban Bob123 spamming offensive language.
Who is the creator of Minecraft: Some call him God....I call him Notch
What company is Minecraft from: Mohjang
Do you use a texture pack: Yes Doku
Are you annoyed that I'm asking so many questions: Nope you are the boss.
Anything else you would like to say: This is honestly one os the best servers I had ever been on. I loved the last way it was and if it's anything like the old server I can't wait for this wild ride.
Us arguing is so pointless and I think you know that, so thanks for not totally freaking out and being calm.
Sorry I wasn't more clear on worldedit earlier.
I think everything you said is reasonable and can be given to you/twisted/curry/people we agree deserve those things.
@Lag - The server can get laggy. This wasn't just recently, the old server had this happen multiple times. Remember how it crashes every once in a while? That's when the lag continues on and goes unattended. Sometimes it lasts a few hours. But this isn't the main reason there's a lack of people on the new IP - it's because it's a new IP. How often do you think people check the server thread for new IPs? I bet 95% of our player base couldn't even find this page if they tried. We just have to rebuild - and I've gotten a good start. I posted the new server on about ~8 more server lists today and we are getting more people.
I know you trust my judgement in terms of Minecraft at least somewhat, so trust me when I tell you I think this setup is going to be more enjoyable for everyone overall.
Oh, the shops? Of course I'm bringing them back. If you log in and checkout near the spawn you'll see the new shop I'm in the process of making - it's rather awesome if you ask me >:).
Like I said, all the things you said sound reasonable, just hit me up next time you see me in-game. As you can probably guess, most commands don't work with offline players.
Doing homework right now and got school tomorrow so I'll be getting off -
Peace.
Definitely will consider you when the server gets a bit more popular and staff is needed
None of this is happening to me.. you have to go on so I can see what the console is saying when you start lagging?
Anyway, on to the real reason I wanted to talk. I think we should make a few more ranks for the server so that players could keep on feeling the satisfaction of getting a new rank. I would also like to suggest a few plugins I have found if you would like ;). A few people were still complaining a tiny bit about the server changing a second time but I think it calmed down by now.
Now, the protection stones. I don't really think it's a good idea to make the protection stones blocks that some people can easily get with just a stone/iron pick. I think that will make a few people have advantages over some people by claiming extensive amounts of land while the other people just get small amounts due to their lack of diamond/gold/iron blocks.
Other than that I don't think I have many problems
I agree Pyre, things are coming up the bright side again
Nothing like this is happening to me either...maybe it's your connection or your computer?
It's up to Ballistic
@ssup, thanks for replying and stuffs
I agree on the ranks. I'll add more definitely.
@Mod apps peoples, I don't reply to them. If I need another Mod and you're app was good and you're online often you'll become mod. I definitely don't like people who only play on my server if they're a Mod so there's no reason you need to know my response.
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I lost my money about 3k-4k. I lost one of my sethome.
Please stabilize the server
Seriously, it is stabilized. I don't know what rollback you're talking about. Everything I see is fine and no one is complaining on the server.
I know that I already did it, but I just wanner re do it, since its a new server!
I changed some answers..
Please fill this out if you want to become a Mod on the server.
FOR MOD:
IGN: RZB321
How long have you been playing Minecraft: Since early-ish Alpha
What's rule #3?:Don't ask questions unless you've read the forums!
Any screenshots of things you've built in Minecraft:My map is here:
http://www.minecraft...hl__ tower pwn
Why you want to be Mod:I played on the original server, back in 1.7.3, and love the new one!
What you like about the server: I love the town-system and the players are nice.
What three qualities you think a Mod should have: They should be responsible, and not abuse the power (i.e. not fly during PvP if they have the permission)
What does Mod stand for: Moderator
What does Admin stand for: Administrator
Who is the owner of the server: Ballistic_Knife
Do you think this staff application is long:A bit, but for good reason.
Name three plugins the server uses: mcMMO, ChestShop, Minequery
What's the name of the server: Untamed Survival
Explain what forcefield is in terms of Minecraft: I'm honestly not sure, maybe a mod or plugin...
Bob had 4 goldenapples, but then he ate 2. He then found 5. How many does he have now: 7.
Name one thing you dislike about the server: That the old map was lost D:
What would you accomplish if you were a Mod on this server: I would be on when other mods aren't so that it's always safe!
How old are you(You don't have to answer): 14, but you know me, ballistic
Explain the process of how someone would get the rank of Citizen and Lord: Citizen is by posting here on this thread, and Lord is if they start a city.
What is block ID 50: A torch
What is the command you would use to permanently ban Bob123 for spamming offensive language: /ban Bob123 Spamming offensive language
Who is the creator of Minecraft: Marcus Persson (Notch)
What company is Minecraft from: Mojang
Do you use a texture pack: Nope, just default!
Are you annoyed that I'm asking so many questions: Noooope!
Anything else you would like to say: Even thought it's all lost, we can rebuild it!
Thanks ballistic!