Now before you chew me to bits saying 'USE THE SEARCH BAR' or use some other excuse like that, just take a look around the discussion forums. See many rant threads on the suggestions forums? No? Good. Cause I've been dying to post this thread.
Now, the intro: The suggestions forum is just a dumping ground for terrible ideas. I'd be willing to bet money on it that dinnerbone avoids the forums like the plague because of these people who post things like 'endercreepers!' or 'guns and herobrine!'.
1. Unoriginal suggestions and forum experience
Basically an unoriginal suggestion is an idea branched off of something added to the game (or removed for that matter). For example, almost every month I find a thread suggesting the thirst bar or ruby tools and armor. Just something I'd like to clear up about rubies is: They were never in the game, they will never be added, so stop suggesting them. Dinnerbone/Jeb (or whoever worked on emeralds) have said that they don't want another ore coloured red, since we already have redstone.
Now onto the unexperienced members part. Everyone has been at this stage of the forums, where we have 10 posts and no forum avatar. Through our own stupidity we post dumb threads like endercreepers, creeper biomes (I actually suggested that in my n00b days, and I hope the person who flamed me was given an infraction. These people shouldn't be flamed about it anyway), wither dimension etc. What we need is a popup on the screen to come up the first time you go on the suggestions forums saying what not to do or suggest.
2. Wishlists
The wishlists are annoying as hell. Everytime I go on the suggestions forums I see a thread with a wishlist, which usually contains guns, herobrine and a hatchable dragon egg. The threads in the suggestions forums are supposed to be focused on one idea, not a bunch of them crammed together into one person's wishlist.
3. 'Add in X mod!'
I swear, I've seen millions of threads suggesting some sort of mod to be put into the game. The most frequent ones are on the timber mod, the dragon mounts mod, or one of the many ruby tools and armor mods.
Conclusion
What I'm trying to say is that the suggestions forums have become crappier and crappier over time, becoming a dumping ground for terrible and unoriginal ideas. To prevent these ignorant suggesters from being flamed to death by critics, I say we need a forced page of text to appear on the posters screen to inform them about unoriginal suggestions and what and what not to post. I propose that it would be one of those topics pinned at the top of the forum page, as I know from experience that people ignore them until they get into the common sense stage of their forum life. Seriously, I only read both threads a few months ago, even that was months after I posted my last unoriginal thread.
The suggestions forums were meant for ideas to be shared and improved upon, not wishlists and necro threads based on mods or other threads. The forum staff have to do something about all these useless threads taking up space, which are only to be locked and the suggesters wondering why the staff and critics do it to them.
So my message to daily suggesters is: Please read the guideline threads at the top of the suggestions forums to prevent yourself from being flamed and others being given infractions.
I congratulate anyone who read all that... Have a steak
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To all of you people who think Notch is still working on the game, he stopped working on Minecraft in late 2011. Get your facts straight and stop spamming his twitter about Minecraft updates.
“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.” — Albert Einstein
"Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig." — Robert Heinlein
Some sort of voting system is in order for suggestion threads. The ones with more rep get put on the popular list, while new ones get put on a voting page or something.
it should be that when you first login to MC forums, it redirects you to the rules page, and you have to go through all of it to pass, to ensure this, questions should be asked before they can pass through.
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Free + Crabs + Ability to trample/suffocate opponents in Cortex Command = Free Bombs.
it should be that when you first login to MC forums, it redirects you to the rules page, and you have to go through all of it to pass, to ensure this, questions should be asked before they can pass through.
it should be that when you first login to MC forums, it redirects you to the rules page, and you have to go through all of it to pass, to ensure this, questions should be asked before they can pass through.
Or even better, they are restricted to post threads until they get 25 post.
Or even better, they are restricted to post threads until they get 25 post.
That would resolve the issues quite well. I hate when new people make suggestions that are not so amazing.
What counts as the noob days? I've considered it to be 10 when I had 1 post, 100 when I had 10, 1000 when I had 100, and now, 10000 is the lower limit for noobs. I think I'm a bit off though.
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I have discovered a truly remarkable proof of this, which this margin is too small to contain.
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Or even better, they are restricted to post threads until they get 25 post.
I don't believe restricting the newer members of the community even further is what will help anything in this situation. You'll probably see one of two things:
i) People just start dumping suggestions into some other thread
ii) People end up not posting it at all. What if it was a good suggestion?
Think to the reason that many people even sign up for the site. More often than not, they sign up with the specific purpose to either reply to, or post a new thread. Many of them probably have lurked the site itself before signing up.
Another thing that would happen would be spam would start posting in random threads, which would hinder the ability to track it down and eliminate it as swiftly as we do now.
Some sort of voting system is in order for suggestion threads. The ones with more rep get put on the popular list, while new ones get put on a voting page or something.
We don't need reddit-style voting. Good (or controversial) ideas will generate more posts, enough of an indicator of popularity.
Now, the intro: The suggestions forum is just a dumping ground for terrible ideas. I'd be willing to bet money on it that dinnerbone avoids the forums like the plague because of these people who post things like 'endercreepers!' or 'guns and herobrine!'.
1. Unoriginal suggestions and forum experience
Basically an unoriginal suggestion is an idea branched off of something added to the game (or removed for that matter). For example, almost every month I find a thread suggesting the thirst bar or ruby tools and armor. Just something I'd like to clear up about rubies is: They were never in the game, they will never be added, so stop suggesting them. Dinnerbone/Jeb (or whoever worked on emeralds) have said that they don't want another ore coloured red, since we already have redstone.
Now onto the unexperienced members part. Everyone has been at this stage of the forums, where we have 10 posts and no forum avatar. Through our own stupidity we post dumb threads like endercreepers, creeper biomes (I actually suggested that in my n00b days, and I hope the person who flamed me was given an infraction. These people shouldn't be flamed about it anyway), wither dimension etc. What we need is a popup on the screen to come up the first time you go on the suggestions forums saying what not to do or suggest.
2. Wishlists
The wishlists are annoying as hell. Everytime I go on the suggestions forums I see a thread with a wishlist, which usually contains guns, herobrine and a hatchable dragon egg. The threads in the suggestions forums are supposed to be focused on one idea, not a bunch of them crammed together into one person's wishlist.
3. 'Add in X mod!'
I swear, I've seen millions of threads suggesting some sort of mod to be put into the game. The most frequent ones are on the timber mod, the dragon mounts mod, or one of the many ruby tools and armor mods.
Conclusion
What I'm trying to say is that the suggestions forums have become crappier and crappier over time, becoming a dumping ground for terrible and unoriginal ideas. To prevent these ignorant suggesters from being flamed to death by critics, I say we need a forced page of text to appear on the posters screen to inform them about unoriginal suggestions and what and what not to post. I propose that it would be one of those topics pinned at the top of the forum page, as I know from experience that people ignore them until they get into the common sense stage of their forum life. Seriously, I only read both threads a few months ago, even that was months after I posted my last unoriginal thread.
The suggestions forums were meant for ideas to be shared and improved upon, not wishlists and necro threads based on mods or other threads. The forum staff have to do something about all these useless threads taking up space, which are only to be locked and the suggesters wondering why the staff and critics do it to them.
So my message to daily suggesters is: Please read the guideline threads at the top of the suggestions forums to prevent yourself from being flamed and others being given infractions.
I congratulate anyone who read all that... Have a steak
"Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig." — Robert Heinlein
We should make a page pop up to new players saying what they can't suggest something unless it has a new atmosphere to it.
Depends on the user. I myself have never posted anything like what he said. (Then again, I don't post a lot of threads anyways...)
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Free + Crabs + Ability to trample/suffocate opponents in Cortex Command = Free Bombs.
Sadly that isn't a feature, but another suggestion. A suggestion... for suggestions. Lol.
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That sounds annoying as heck.
Or even better, they are restricted to post threads until they get 25 post.
Or even better, they are restricted to post threads until they get 25 post.
That would resolve the issues quite well. I hate when new people make suggestions that are not so amazing.
What counts as the noob days? I've considered it to be 10 when I had 1 post, 100 when I had 10, 1000 when I had 100, and now, 10000 is the lower limit for noobs. I think I'm a bit off though.
I don't believe restricting the newer members of the community even further is what will help anything in this situation. You'll probably see one of two things:
i) People just start dumping suggestions into some other thread
ii) People end up not posting it at all. What if it was a good suggestion?
Think to the reason that many people even sign up for the site. More often than not, they sign up with the specific purpose to either reply to, or post a new thread. Many of them probably have lurked the site itself before signing up.
Another thing that would happen would be spam would start posting in random threads, which would hinder the ability to track it down and eliminate it as swiftly as we do now.
We don't need reddit-style voting. Good (or controversial) ideas will generate more posts, enough of an indicator of popularity.