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Greetings Minecraft Community! I am thinking of building a gaming computer, and because I can't decide which OS it should have, I decided to design one. (I have read several articles on how). What I am tossing and turning over is, if I host a server on the new computer, will people be able to connect since it isn't a traditional OS? How will it affect my gameplay in single and multiplayer mode? Please help ASAP!!!
(P.s, before you say buy a new computer, i'm flat broke, and I live in an Apple dominant household. iMacs cost a lot! The cost of building the average computer is I think about $500. The newest iMac costs over $1,000!)
I'm sorry, you want to "design" your own OS?
How many decades of programming experience do you have, and how large is your team?
Do yourself a favor and just get Windows 7. Reading a few articles won't give you enough experience to write your own OS (Operating System)
As for the computer itself, mine is a custom mid range gaming PC I built for around 700 Dollars total, but you can do it cheaper and still get a lot of power.
I don't mean to be discouraging, but coding your own OS is a LOT of work. You'd need to be very experienced and have a great deal of technical know-how in order to take on a project like that. It's not really something that you can learn just by reading a few articles. If it's a project you feel serious about working on, take a year to learn C. Make it your 2014 New Years' Resolution or something
If you were playing Minecraft on a "nontraditional" OS, your gameplay wouldn't be affected at all in singleplayer or multiplayer mode so long as that OS was capable of running Java. My computer, running Arch Linux, can connect to servers on Windows 7 just fine. You don't need to worry about compatibility in that regard.
If you plan on playing Minecraft predominantly and you don't like Windows or Mac OS, why not go for something like Linux? Any OS that's capable of running Java should be able to run Minecraft, I think. You don't need to buy a new computer to install Linux, it's free, and it'll boost your performance a bit too
If you plan on playing Minecraft predominantly and you don't like Windows or Mac OS, why not go for something like Linux? Any OS that's capable of running Java should be able to run Minecraft, I think. You don't need to buy a new computer to install Linux, it's free, and it'll boost your performance a bit too
Just install windows. There is no performance difference.
The incorrectness of your last statement aside, OP may have other reasons for not wanting to install Windows on his machine, such as price. The fact that he was unsure of what OS to put on the machine is enough to infer that "just install windows" may not be an adequate solution to the problem.
The incorrectness of your last statement aside, OP may have other reasons for not wanting to install Windows on his machine, such as price. The fact that he was unsure of what OS to put on the machine is enough to infer that "just install windows" may not be an adequate solution to the problem.
Just install windows. There is no performance difference.
In all seriousness, expect to get crap if you bring up Linux for any reason other than it being free, because everything else is skeptical and extremely hard to prove in any circumstance.
There is no performance difference. I've done tests myself, as have others.
OP may have other reasons for not wanting to install Windows on his machine, such as price.
If you can't afford a $90 purchase every ~6-7 years, you should not be playing video games or using a computer and should instead be out looking for a job.
The fact that he was unsure of what OS to put on the machine is enough to infer that "just install windows" may not be an adequate solution to the problem.
How?
"What OS should I use?"
My post was quite literally the perfect answer to that question. Short, to the point, and explains that it doesn't really matter.
In all seriousness, expect to get crap if you bring up Linux for any reason other than it being free, because everything else is skeptical and extremely hard to prove in any circumstance.
But I switched from a 3 year old OEM installation of Windows to a fresh install of a Linux distribution! Are you saying that's not a fair test?
The part that confuses me is that the OP wants to build a computer, but has no money. The fact that Windows costs money is a bit less of a problem than the fact that hardware happens to cost money too.
It also comes with WINE so if you wanna run your windows programs on it, they will most likely work
Spoken like someone who has never actually used WINE before.
If you had, you would know how absolutely terrible it is. No games released in the past 7 years will run, program support is spotty at best and as a whole it just kinda really sucks.
Not even going to touch the rest of your absurd post.
What is your debate, OP? Windows is the best option for gaming, generally. There are few reasons to use Linux in the first place, and none of those come anywhere near gaming. I'd say the best we'll see of gaming and Linux will be the SteamOS, but that's not even going to be great since most (if not all) features there will be present in Steam normally, and any games that won't run natively on Linux will be streamed to you, which will be sucky performance, so why not go with Windows anyways. If you want Mac, you'll need to make sure to have the compatible parts, but again it's not the greatest for gaming support. It's gotten a lot better, but still nowhere near Windows.
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Oh god. I see I accidentally caused WW3. To clarify, I am learning C right now. I'm also 13, and flat broke, so I can't get a job or afford Windows. And the OS I'm trying to develop isn't for now. It's for something I have plans for later. I'll try Fireblaze Phoenix. But does it have java?
If you don't have a huge team of several dozen people at least, I doubt you'll be able to make more than a simple command-line file manager, even a few years down the line.
Seriously, why would you need to? Unless it's just a project you want to do for fun, there is absolutely no point whatsoever.
Dude, seriously, stop inquiring so deeply into his personal life. You don't really have any right to ask him about why he can't get a job.
Maybe he already has parts available for a gaming computer so he doesn't need to buy them, but he hasn't built it yet. Maybe he's getting used parts from Freecycle or something. It's really none of your business. You can build a gaming computer without money.
Oh god. I see I accidentally caused WW3. To clarify, I am learning C right now. I'm also 13, and flat broke, so I can't get a job or afford Windows. And the OS I'm trying to develop isn't for now. It's for something I have plans for later. I'll try Fireblaze Phoenix. But does it have java?
That "Fireblaze Phoenix" OS looks to be a derivative of Linux, so it will be able to run Java. However, it looks a bit spotty to me and I've never heard of it before. I'd recommend a more mainstream Linux distribution if you are interested in going the Linux route, so that you can get more support for things you are unfamiliar with or problems you may encounter. Regular OpenSUSE would probably be fine for your needs.
It was definitely my fault that the whole "post war" started, so I apologize for making a mess of your thread. Suffice to say that I've learned from my mistake. Linux will run Minecraft just as well as Windows and it's free, but as others have pointed out, support for many other games is exclusively relegated to Windows. Games such as World of Warcraft, for example, can't be played on Linux without Wine, which is known to be buggy with games. However, if you are unable to afford Windows and you only want to play Minecraft, Linux is a fine choice for you.
One more note - don't let anyone discourage you if you have a serious plan in mind to develop your own OS. It's definitely a very difficult project, but not impossible and you could end up making something worth using if you stick to it. Like my dad always said, "Follow your dreams!" Hope I helped and sorry again for the mess
I was quoting Freecycle as an example, but yes, you can get all the parts you need for a low- or mid-end gaming computer from Freecycle if you stick at it long enough. Definitely one powerful enough to run Minecraft.
(P.s, before you say buy a new computer, i'm flat broke, and I live in an Apple dominant household. iMacs cost a lot! The cost of building the average computer is I think about $500. The newest iMac costs over $1,000!)
How many decades of programming experience do you have, and how large is your team?
Do yourself a favor and just get Windows 7. Reading a few articles won't give you enough experience to write your own OS (Operating System)
As for the computer itself, mine is a custom mid range gaming PC I built for around 700 Dollars total, but you can do it cheaper and still get a lot of power.
If you were playing Minecraft on a "nontraditional" OS, your gameplay wouldn't be affected at all in singleplayer or multiplayer mode so long as that OS was capable of running Java. My computer, running Arch Linux, can connect to servers on Windows 7 just fine. You don't need to worry about compatibility in that regard.
If you plan on playing Minecraft predominantly and you don't like Windows or Mac OS, why not go for something like Linux? Any OS that's capable of running Java should be able to run Minecraft, I think. You don't need to buy a new computer to install Linux, it's free, and it'll boost your performance a bit too
Have fun writing a Java runtime.
Show me proof that a Linux based OS will boost MC performance.
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/2076648-ubuntulaptop-benchmarking/
From any testing I have done it will not, the drivers FOSS or closed are not as mature as their windows counterparts.
Sure, I'd be happy to discuss it with you.
Lol, benchmarking minecraft multiplayer
The incorrectness of your last statement aside, OP may have other reasons for not wanting to install Windows on his machine, such as price. The fact that he was unsure of what OS to put on the machine is enough to infer that "just install windows" may not be an adequate solution to the problem.
I think you didn't read what he said very well.
In case you missed it.
In all seriousness, expect to get crap if you bring up Linux for any reason other than it being free, because everything else is skeptical and extremely hard to prove in any circumstance.
There is no performance difference. I've done tests myself, as have others.
If you can't afford a $90 purchase every ~6-7 years, you should not be playing video games or using a computer and should instead be out looking for a job.
How?
"What OS should I use?"
My post was quite literally the perfect answer to that question. Short, to the point, and explains that it doesn't really matter.
But I switched from a 3 year old OEM installation of Windows to a fresh install of a Linux distribution! Are you saying that's not a fair test?
The part that confuses me is that the OP wants to build a computer, but has no money. The fact that Windows costs money is a bit less of a problem than the fact that hardware happens to cost money too.
If you had, you would know how absolutely terrible it is. No games released in the past 7 years will run, program support is spotty at best and as a whole it just kinda really sucks.
Not even going to touch the rest of your absurd post.
No he won't. It's written in Java, which means there would need to be a Java runtime for the OS. Any Java program would work then.
No, no it's not.
"Programmers never repeat themselves. They loop."
It's either that or two absolutely crap choices.
Because no one ever plays multiplayer ever. I can bring up dozens of other games that run worse under Linux based OS then Windows.
Dude, seriously, stop inquiring so deeply into his personal life. You don't really have any right to ask him about why he can't get a job.
Maybe he already has parts available for a gaming computer so he doesn't need to buy them, but he hasn't built it yet. Maybe he's getting used parts from Freecycle or something. It's really none of your business. You can build a gaming computer without money.
That "Fireblaze Phoenix" OS looks to be a derivative of Linux, so it will be able to run Java. However, it looks a bit spotty to me and I've never heard of it before. I'd recommend a more mainstream Linux distribution if you are interested in going the Linux route, so that you can get more support for things you are unfamiliar with or problems you may encounter. Regular OpenSUSE would probably be fine for your needs.
It was definitely my fault that the whole "post war" started, so I apologize for making a mess of your thread. Suffice to say that I've learned from my mistake. Linux will run Minecraft just as well as Windows and it's free, but as others have pointed out, support for many other games is exclusively relegated to Windows. Games such as World of Warcraft, for example, can't be played on Linux without Wine, which is known to be buggy with games. However, if you are unable to afford Windows and you only want to play Minecraft, Linux is a fine choice for you.
One more note - don't let anyone discourage you if you have a serious plan in mind to develop your own OS. It's definitely a very difficult project, but not impossible and you could end up making something worth using if you stick to it. Like my dad always said, "Follow your dreams!" Hope I helped and sorry again for the mess
Pick one or the other.