i'm thinking of building a new system and like the idea of something with lower power requirements that "potentially" runs faster than a conventional magnetic drive. I've heard good things about SSDs in that they load programs faster. However i have also heard they don't have good BUS mainboard interfaces and that you might end up in a situation where your SSD is fast but the there is a data flow bottleneck at some point. I'm not sure how to evaluate this exactly regarding these two products
Also i'm guessing you have to get the 2.5 bay conversion equipment and a independent sata cable. Luckily i considered the odd shape of the device and youtubed how it was installed and realized you need drive bay conversions to do it.
There is a drive only and a reseller kit so is it correct to assume that the reseller actually has the drive bay conversions and the SATA cable ?
It depends mostly on two things. How much you are willing to pay and what you will use it for. Typical HDD's tend to be solid, cheap, and reliable, but are also slower. SSD's are faster, but can be a bit unreliable. The units themselves are also more expensive, plus whatever conversions you may need. If you're on a tight budget, you may want to stick with an HDD. But if you're willing to spend the money an SSD can be well worth it.
Also, your processor is not compatible with your motherboard. In the product name, "LGA" refers to the CPU socket type. So if you have an LGA 1150 motherboard, you will need an LGA 1150 CPU as well.
Do i really need all this power ? I Don't think i' going to duel sli or overclock
I'm heavily leaning toward the SDD but still am not sure if there is some sort of SATA bottlneck that i have to verify to determine if i'm not getting full use of out the SDD. Since nobody brought this up as a concern i'm guessing i got some bad information on SDD's being bottlenecked by motherboard inputs.
Do i really need all this power ? I Don't think i' going to duel sli or overclock
I'm heavily leaning toward the SDD but still am not sure if there is some sort of SATA bottlneck that i have to verify to determine if i'm not getting full use of out the SDD. Since nobody brought this up as a concern i'm guessing i got some bad information on SDD's being bottlenecked by motherboard inputs.
why don't you just tell us your full budget and let us make a build for you?
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OKay i made some modifications. What do you guys think ? http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Rafe009/saved/2VQw
I have an old case that goes way back – about ten years – when the EPOX KT33 was a good mainboard. It’s been through a lot but I haven’t used it much in the last 5 years. I figure it is still good. ATX is still a mainstay so what more needs to be said about that, nothing has changed as far as I know so I’m sure you guys would give me the go ahead unless there is a concern I haven’t considered.
There is nothing 'potentially' about solid states running faster. They run faster. Fact. In most cases, the bottleneck will be the Sata 3 (6Gb/s) interface, assuming your motherboard isn't rubbish. Most modern solid states will have read speeds around 550MB/s, so reasonably close to the theoretical sata 3 speeds (though, theoretical is almost never practical).
Solid states are well worth it. While some people still insist they can't be trusted for reliability reasons, those arguments are mostly invalid now. Any of the decent solid states will last you years, probably longer than the average hard drive (yes, hard drives have a life span too). For example, Samsung, Crucial, Intel, etc. products can usually be trusted. I myself have a Samsung 840 which I have had no problems with, and is so much faster than a 7200rpm hard drive.
I also have 2x2TB hard drives in my PC, one for backup and the other for programs, games, music etc. In most cases, you won't need all your programs on a solid state, and games can still be an issue if your looking at anything less that 512GB, assuming you have a decent size games library (I'm heading towards 1TB just for steam games -.-).
Most newer cases come with a 3.5" to 2.5" converter tray thingo, but if you aren't buying a new case then yes, you will need to pick up a tray or buy a SSD that comes with one. As for what you mean by independent SATA cable, I'm not really sure what you mean. Yes, you will need a SATA cable for the drive. It can be any SATA cable though, but you will want to make sure it supports SATA 3 if your motherboard can handle it. You also want to make sure you plug it into a SATA 3 port, for the best speeds.
Ahh i see, good call. For another 10 bucks i can get the 760. i Have since changed it on your advice. Still i would rather pay more now for a processor/mainboard, i can always replace the video card later to squeeze some more performance out of my system. I have done this twice while maintaining the other systems.
i'm thinking of building a new system and like the idea of something with lower power requirements that "potentially" runs faster than a conventional magnetic drive. I've heard good things about SSDs in that they load programs faster. However i have also heard they don't have good BUS mainboard interfaces and that you might end up in a situation where your SSD is fast but the there is a data flow bottleneck at some point. I'm not sure how to evaluate this exactly regarding these two products
http://www.amazon.com/Intel-2-5-Inch-Internal-Reseller-SSDSC2BW240A4K5/dp/B00DTPYT78/ref=br_lf_m_565132_1_3_img?ie=UTF8&m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&s=pc&pf_rd_p=1669756422&pf_rd_s=center-3&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=565132&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1JJFAH8HG5A6DKRDV77C
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http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00CU4L4NQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Also i'm guessing you have to get the 2.5 bay conversion equipment and a independent sata cable. Luckily i considered the odd shape of the device and youtubed how it was installed and realized you need drive bay conversions to do it.
There is a drive only and a reseller kit so is it correct to assume that the reseller actually has the drive bay conversions and the SATA cable ?
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FR6XP6I/ref=ox_sc_act_title_4?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Intel Core i5-3570K Quad-Core Processor 3.4 GHz 4 Core LGA 1155 - BX80637I53570K
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Kingston Hyper X Blu 8 GB (2x4GB Modules) 1600MHz DDR3 Non-ECC CL9 XMP Desktop Memory - KHX1600C9D3B1K2/8GX -
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Gigabyte Z87 LGA 1150 2 Way SLI HDMI DVI ATX Motherboard (GA-Z87X-D3H)
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Corsair Professional Series 760 Watt Digital ATX/EPS Modular 80 PLUS Platinum Power Supply AX760i
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Or well actually, technically, everything is in the past, there is no "present" since "present" is relative.
Yes thank you. Here is a another model
http://www.amazon.com/Gigabyte-CrossFireX-DispayPort-Motherboard-GA-Z77X-UD3H/dp/B007R21JJK/ref=pd_sim_pc_3
Also, your processor is not compatible with your motherboard. In the product name, "LGA" refers to the CPU socket type. So if you have an LGA 1150 motherboard, you will need an LGA 1150 CPU as well.
Intel Core i5-3570K Quad-Core Processor 3.4 GHz 4 Core LGA 1155 - BX80637I53570K
Gigabyte Intel Z77 LGA 1155 AMD CrossFireX/NVIDIA SLI W/ HDMI,DVI,DispayPort Dual UEFI BIOS ATX Motherboard GA-Z77X-UD3H
I wasn't sure what part of that text was necessary to determine compatibility between the two components
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Corsair Professional Series 760 Watt Digital ATX/EPS Modular 80 PLUS Platinum Power Supply AX760i
http://www.amazon.co...d=ATVPDKIKX0DER
Do i really need all this power ? I Don't think i' going to duel sli or overclock
I'm heavily leaning toward the SDD but still am not sure if there is some sort of SATA bottlneck that i have to verify to determine if i'm not getting full use of out the SDD. Since nobody brought this up as a concern i'm guessing i got some bad information on SDD's being bottlenecked by motherboard inputs.
why don't you just tell us your full budget and let us make a build for you?
if someone suggests Alienware or Cyberpower, wait for a custom-built list from someone who knows their stuff. Meh Rig
I guess around 1000 usd. No monitor, no peripherals. I'll factor those in separately. Windows 8.1
OKay i made some modifications. What do you guys think ?
http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Rafe009/saved/2VQw
I have an old case that goes way back – about ten years – when the EPOX KT33 was a good mainboard. It’s been through a lot but I haven’t used it much in the last 5 years. I figure it is still good. ATX is still a mainstay so what more needs to be said about that, nothing has changed as far as I know so I’m sure you guys would give me the go ahead unless there is a concern I haven’t considered.
Does it even have modern ATX mounts?
I'm lost
the numbers 7950 and 760 don't have a point of reference.
The processor has neither number series in it nor does the mainboard or the memory.
Intel Core i5-3570K Ivy Bridge 3.4GHz (3.8GHz Turbo) LGA 1155 77W Quad-Core Desktop Processor Intel HD Graphics 4000 BX80637I53570K
ASUS GTX 660 Ti Series Graphics Card Overclocked Edition Graphics Cards GTX660 TI-DC2O-2GD5
Kingston Technology Hyper X 8GB 1600MHz DDR3 Non-ECC CL9 DIMM (kit of 2) KHX1600C9D3K2/8G
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Retired StaffSolid states are well worth it. While some people still insist they can't be trusted for reliability reasons, those arguments are mostly invalid now. Any of the decent solid states will last you years, probably longer than the average hard drive (yes, hard drives have a life span too). For example, Samsung, Crucial, Intel, etc. products can usually be trusted. I myself have a Samsung 840 which I have had no problems with, and is so much faster than a 7200rpm hard drive.
I also have 2x2TB hard drives in my PC, one for backup and the other for programs, games, music etc. In most cases, you won't need all your programs on a solid state, and games can still be an issue if your looking at anything less that 512GB, assuming you have a decent size games library (I'm heading towards 1TB just for steam games -.-).
Most newer cases come with a 3.5" to 2.5" converter tray thingo, but if you aren't buying a new case then yes, you will need to pick up a tray or buy a SSD that comes with one. As for what you mean by independent SATA cable, I'm not really sure what you mean. Yes, you will need a SATA cable for the drive. It can be any SATA cable though, but you will want to make sure it supports SATA 3 if your motherboard can handle it. You also want to make sure you plug it into a SATA 3 port, for the best speeds.
I have about 4 independent fans.
I'm not sure when modern ATX mounts where introduced or what they even do. Should i just go ahead and get a new case ?
Ahh i see, good call. For another 10 bucks i can get the 760. i Have since changed it on your advice. Still i would rather pay more now for a processor/mainboard, i can always replace the video card later to squeeze some more performance out of my system. I have done this twice while maintaining the other systems.