Hello all, I've done a fair amount of research on computers, have already posted a couple threads, so I'm just going to jump right to this.
I want a computer that is able to record Minecraft at max settings at around 200 FPS. The reason I say 200 FPS (and yes, I'm aware my monitor won't be able to display it) is because I want to be able to do very demanding tasks (i.e explode large amounts of TNT) and still maintain steady framerate.
Now then, I will be playing Minecraft, League of Legends, and perhaps in the future, Far Cry 3.
I have a budget of $1450 (this is to leave room for peripherals, my budget is actually $1600), so keep that in mind for better suggestions.
Basically, I wanted to make sure this build is balanced.
Now, for what you've all been reading for...
The Build:
Case ( CoolerMaster HAF 922 Gaming Case - Black )
Case Lighting ( Cold Cathode Neon Light - Red ) Unnecessary, but I want a good looking system.
Processor ( Intel® Core™ i5-3570K Processor (4x 3.40GHz/6MB L3 Cache) - Intel Core i5-3570K )
PSU ( Asetek 550LC Liquid CPU Cooling System (Intel) - ARC Dual Silent High Perfornamce Fan (Push-Pull Airflow) )
Memory ( 16 GB [8 GB x2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module - Corsair Vengeance )
GPU ( AMD Radeon HD 7870 - 2GB - Single Card )
Motherboard ( ASUS P8Z77-V LX )
Power Supply ( 650 Watt - Corsair CMPSU-650TXV2 )
Primary Hard Drive ( 1 TB HARD DRIVE -- 32M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0Gb/s - Single Drive )
Data Hard Drive ( 60 GB Corsair Force Series GT SSD - Single Card )
Optical Drive ( 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Black )
Sound Card ( ASUS Xonar DG )
Operating System ( Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium - 64-Bit )
Keyboard ( Corsair Vengeance K90 Gaming Keyboard - Black w/ Silver )
Mouse ( Corsair Vengeance M60 Enthusiast-Grade 5700dpi Gaming Mouse - Black )
Monitor ( 22" LED 1920x1080 -- ASUS VS228H-P (21.5 viewable) )
So that's my current build, leave a response once again for better suggestions, or if you think this build will suffice, etc. I think it may be a bit unbalanced, but that's mainly why I'm asking you.
Thanks in advance.
-Skippy50351
EDIT: Oh yeah, I suppose it's fairly crucially important that I don't want to build the PC myself, and this current prebuilt (I'm selecting the parts) is at $1665, really at the top of my budget, but it's ready to go out of the box, professionally wired, free Far Cry 3, and a 3 year warranty, so I think it's pretty good for the price.
Maybe this, but it seem a bit overpriced. http://pcpartpicker.com/p/sSyj
But you know, you can always go with other parts to make it a ton cheaper, I just left the peripherals and things you wanted in the build.
If you REALLY don't want to build a computer, arn't there local techs that can put systems together for you? Where I am, not sure if its the same out in the states, there are tonnes of people that can do assembly for below $100 bucks.
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-Sctune-CFO, PRO & Owner of Phicraft, Co-Owner of BuildersInc, Founder of OminousWinds
I really appreciated the help I received in this thread; The community in the hardware section are truly wonderful. The most helpful parts, to me, though, were the other builds people suggested. Seeing common parts gives me a sort of benchmark to see what parts are good.
This, combined with my other threads, has truly taught me a lot about computers, and even though I have yet to be changed over to the "build it yourself" people; I might just do that the next time I purchase a computer. But for my first gaming PC, I want it as hassle free as possible. To save money, I'm actually just going to purchase a better keyboard and mouse at a later date, but purchasing this PC gives a basically free ($6) keyboard and mouse, and I will buy the monitor from Amazon. I feel like I've gotten a pretty good deal for the price of $1407 + $140 (for the monitor), but I'm actually not going to invest in an SSD when it's probably the most unnecessary part on the build.
Probably more importantly, I'm ordering from iBUYPOWER. I've read a great number of reviews about their products, and honestly, they have so many damn reviews that I seriously doubt they're payed, as well as an 'A' rating from BBB.
So here's the free stuff you get
[FREE] - Gigabyte GC-WB300D Bluetooth 4.0 / Dual Band WiFi Expansion Card
[FREE Game Download] - DiRT Showdown
Most excited for this: [FREE Game Download] - Far Cry3 + 20% OFF code for Medal of Honor Warfighter
[FREE Game Download] - Sleeping Dogs + Hitman: Absolution
Keep in mind the virtually free keyboard and mouse, I really don't need that very high quality for now, so I'll probably get the keyboard and mouse I wanted from amazon at a later date.
And for about $40, I'm getting professional wiring and tuned interface between CPU and heatsinks, as well as special packaging for about $20.
And for the (hopefully) FINAL build I will post threads about:
Case ( CoolerMaster HAF 922 Gaming Case - Black ) Case Lighting ( Cold Cathode Neon Light - Red ) Processor ( Intel® Core™ i5-3570K Processor (4x 3.40GHz/6MB L3 Cache) - Intel Core i5-3570K ) Processor Cooling ( Corsair Hydro Series H60 Liquid CPU Cooling System - ARC Dual Silent High Performance Fan Upgrade (Push-Pull Airflow) ) Memory ( 8 GB [4 GB X2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module - Corsair Vengeance )
Video Card ( AMD Radeon HD 7950 - 3GB - Single Card ) Motherboard ( ASRock Z77 Extreme4 -- 2x PCI-E 3.0 x16, 4x USB 3.0 ) Power Supply ( 650 Watt - Corsair CMPSU-650TXV2 ) Primary Hard Drive ( 1 TB HARD DRIVE -- 32M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0Gb/s - Single Drive ) Optical Drive ( 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Black ) Sound Card ( ASUS Xonar DG ) Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) ) Operating System ( Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium + Office Starter 2010 (Includes basic versions of Word and Excel) - 64-Bit ) Monitor (from Amazon) ASUS VS228H-P 21.5-Inch Full-HD LED Monitor (Black)
iBUYPOWER Standard gaming keyboard and mouse (it'll get me by)
So here's the free stuff you get
[FREE] - Gigabyte GC-WB300D Bluetooth 4.0 / Dual Band WiFi Expansion Card
[FREE Game Download] - DiRT Showdown
Most excited for this: [FREE Game Download] - Far Cry3 + 20% OFF code for Medal of Honor Warfighter
[FREE Game Download] - Sleeping Dogs + Hitman: Absolution
Keep in mind the virtually free keyboard and mouse, I really don't need that very high quality for now, so I'll probably get the keyboard and mouse I wanted from amazon at a later date.
And for about $40, I'm getting professional wiring and tuned interface between CPU and heatsinks, as well as special packaging for about $20.
And for the (hopefully) FINAL build I will post threads about:
Case ( CoolerMaster HAF 922 Gaming Case - Black ) Case Lighting ( Cold Cathode Neon Light - Red ) Processor ( Intel® Core™ i5-3570K Processor (4x 3.40GHz/6MB L3 Cache) - Intel Core i5-3570K ) Processor Cooling ( Corsair Hydro Series H60 Liquid CPU Cooling System - ARC Dual Silent High Performance Fan Upgrade (Push-Pull Airflow) ) Memory ( 8 GB [4 GB X2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module - Corsair Vengeance )
Video Card ( AMD Radeon HD 7950 - 3GB - Single Card ) Motherboard ( ASRock Z77 Extreme4 -- 2x PCI-E 3.0 x16, 4x USB 3.0 ) Power Supply ( 650 Watt - Corsair CMPSU-650TXV2 ) Primary Hard Drive ( 1 TB HARD DRIVE -- 32M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0Gb/s - Single Drive ) Optical Drive ( 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Black ) Sound Card ( ASUS Xonar DG ) Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) ) Operating System ( Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium + Office Starter 2010 (Includes basic versions of Word and Excel) - 64-Bit ) Monitor (from Amazon) ASUS VS228H-P 21.5-Inch Full-HD LED Monitor (Black)
iBUYPOWER Standard gaming keyboard and mouse (it'll get me by)
Thanks again.
-Skippy50351
You. Do. Not. Want. To. Order. From. iBUYPOWER. Overpriced. Poor quality. Professional wiring my donkey. They'll apply cheap thermal paste. Liquid cooling is bad until a custom loop, which is $200-500, and not built by some company like iBUYPOWER. OP, you're going to be best buying your own parts and finding a local tech shop if you're so adamant on not building it yourself.
You. Do. Not. Want. To. Order. From. iBUYPOWER. Overpriced. Poor quality. Professional wiring my donkey. They'll apply cheap thermal paste. Liquid cooling is bad until a custom loop, which is $200-500, and not built by some company like iBUYPOWER. OP, you're going to be best buying your own parts and finding a local tech shop if you're so adamant on not building it yourself.
But do you have any personal experience with them?
You. Do. Not. Want. To. Order. From. iBUYPOWER. Overpriced. Poor quality. Professional wiring my donkey. They'll apply cheap thermal paste. Liquid cooling is bad until a custom loop, which is $200-500, and not built by some company like iBUYPOWER. OP, you're going to be best buying your own parts and finding a local tech shop if you're so adamant on not building it yourself.
Overpriced?
Basically the same build here: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/t1wI
That build is for $1182.05.
So you're thinking, "still $200 overpriced". Except it's not. That build is WITHOUT a mouse and keyboard, without the fee a shop would charge, without the dual 120mm fans, without the free games, (specfically, $80 Far Cry 3), without a 3 year warranty, without advanced packaging, and without neon cathode lights.
After all that, is it really overpriced? Maybe by about $100, until you figure in labor, free shipping, and professional wiring.
So for iBUYPOWER being overpriced: It comes ready to go out of the box, and honestly I'm not seeing how it is in this case.
As for the cheap thermal paste and bad quality; I think the reviews speak for themselves. Even if it is crap, I have 3 years to get it completely fixed.
But don't let me seem like a jerk. I really appreciate the comment, it had me research iBUYPOWER and other comparing prices. I'm just not so sure why everyone is so against prebuilts...
Overpriced?
Basically the same build here: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/t1wI
That build is for $1182.05.
So you're thinking, "still $200 overpriced". Except it's not. That build is WITHOUT a mouse and keyboard, without the fee a shop would charge, without the dual 120mm fans, without the free games, (specfically, $80 Far Cry 3), without a 3 year warranty, without advanced packaging, and without neon cathode lights.
After all that, is it really overpriced? Maybe by about $100, until you figure in labor, free shipping, and professional wiring.
So for iBUYPOWER being overpriced: It comes ready to go out of the box, and honestly I'm not seeing how it is in this case.
As for the cheap thermal paste and bad quality; I think the reviews speak for themselves. Even if it is crap, I have 3 years to get it completely fixed.
But don't let me seem like a jerk. I really appreciate the comment, it had me research iBUYPOWER and other comparing prices. I'm just not so sure why everyone is so against prebuilts...
Okay, go for it if you want. Just don't except ANY part of it to last more than 2-3 months.
You get individual warranties on each part, which is far superior to sending the entire machine back.
The wiring in the machine will be just whatever they can get to work.
That build is bad anyways, I didn't even look at it at first.
Terrible Mobo, Way Overpriced
Terrible Liquid Cooling, Closed loops are bad to begin with
Hitachi Deathstar HDD, will fail in less than 6 months
Here is a better build that comes with your 3 free games, that is actually much cheaper.
I want a computer that is able to record Minecraft at max settings at around 200 FPS. The reason I say 200 FPS (and yes, I'm aware my monitor won't be able to display it) is because I want to be able to do very demanding tasks (i.e explode large amounts of TNT) and still maintain steady framerate.
Now then, I will be playing Minecraft, League of Legends, and perhaps in the future, Far Cry 3.
I have a budget of $1450 (this is to leave room for peripherals, my budget is actually $1600), so keep that in mind for better suggestions.
Basically, I wanted to make sure this build is balanced.
Now, for what you've all been reading for...
The Build:
Case ( CoolerMaster HAF 922 Gaming Case - Black )
Case Lighting ( Cold Cathode Neon Light - Red ) Unnecessary, but I want a good looking system.
Processor ( Intel® Core™ i5-3570K Processor (4x 3.40GHz/6MB L3 Cache) - Intel Core i5-3570K )
PSU ( Asetek 550LC Liquid CPU Cooling System (Intel) - ARC Dual Silent High Perfornamce Fan (Push-Pull Airflow) )
Memory ( 16 GB [8 GB x2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module - Corsair Vengeance )
GPU ( AMD Radeon HD 7870 - 2GB - Single Card )
Motherboard ( ASUS P8Z77-V LX )
Power Supply ( 650 Watt - Corsair CMPSU-650TXV2 )
Primary Hard Drive ( 1 TB HARD DRIVE -- 32M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0Gb/s - Single Drive )
Data Hard Drive ( 60 GB Corsair Force Series GT SSD - Single Card )
Optical Drive ( 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Black )
Sound Card ( ASUS Xonar DG )
Operating System ( Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium - 64-Bit )
Keyboard ( Corsair Vengeance K90 Gaming Keyboard - Black w/ Silver )
Mouse ( Corsair Vengeance M60 Enthusiast-Grade 5700dpi Gaming Mouse - Black )
Monitor ( 22" LED 1920x1080 -- ASUS VS228H-P (21.5 viewable) )
So that's my current build, leave a response once again for better suggestions, or if you think this build will suffice, etc. I think it may be a bit unbalanced, but that's mainly why I'm asking you.
Thanks in advance.
-Skippy50351
EDIT: Oh yeah, I suppose it's fairly crucially important that I don't want to build the PC myself, and this current prebuilt (I'm selecting the parts) is at $1665, really at the top of my budget, but it's ready to go out of the box, professionally wired, free Far Cry 3, and a 3 year warranty, so I think it's pretty good for the price.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($169.99 @ Microcenter)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($29.98 @ Amazon)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.99 @ Newegg)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Black 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($89.99 @ Microcenter)
Storage: Samsung 830 Series 128GB 2.5" Solid State Disk ($109.00 @ B&H)
Video Card: Gigabyte Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($299.99 @ Amazon)
Case: NZXT Phantom 410 (White) ATX Mid Tower Case ($99.99 @ Amazon)
Power Supply: SeaSonic 620W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($83.99 @ SuperBiiz)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($24.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $1171.86
But you know, you can always go with other parts to make it a ton cheaper, I just left the peripherals and things you wanted in the build.
Seasonic 620 watts / Asus ROG Strix RX480 / AMD FX 8350 / 8gb Corsair Ram / MSI 990fx / 2 tb Seagate / 120 gb Samsung SSD / Razer Deathadder 2013 / Corsair K65 Keyboard / Phanteks cooler / Asus 23" 1080p 2ms / Asus MG248Q 24" 1080p 1ms 144hz
Yep.
Are you really sure you don't want to build the system yourself? Also, where are you ordering it from?
"Programmers never repeat themselves. They loop."
Parts have warranties.
This, combined with my other threads, has truly taught me a lot about computers, and even though I have yet to be changed over to the "build it yourself" people; I might just do that the next time I purchase a computer. But for my first gaming PC, I want it as hassle free as possible. To save money, I'm actually just going to purchase a better keyboard and mouse at a later date, but purchasing this PC gives a basically free ($6) keyboard and mouse, and I will buy the monitor from Amazon. I feel like I've gotten a pretty good deal for the price of $1407 + $140 (for the monitor), but I'm actually not going to invest in an SSD when it's probably the most unnecessary part on the build.
Probably more importantly, I'm ordering from iBUYPOWER. I've read a great number of reviews about their products, and honestly, they have so many damn reviews that I seriously doubt they're payed, as well as an 'A' rating from BBB.
So here's the free stuff you get
[FREE] - Gigabyte GC-WB300D Bluetooth 4.0 / Dual Band WiFi Expansion Card
[FREE Game Download] - DiRT Showdown
Most excited for this: [FREE Game Download] - Far Cry3 + 20% OFF code for Medal of Honor Warfighter
[FREE Game Download] - Sleeping Dogs + Hitman: Absolution
Keep in mind the virtually free keyboard and mouse, I really don't need that very high quality for now, so I'll probably get the keyboard and mouse I wanted from amazon at a later date.
And for about $40, I'm getting professional wiring and tuned interface between CPU and heatsinks, as well as special packaging for about $20.
And for the (hopefully) FINAL build I will post threads about:
Case ( CoolerMaster HAF 922 Gaming Case - Black )
Case Lighting ( Cold Cathode Neon Light - Red )
Processor ( Intel® Core™ i5-3570K Processor (4x 3.40GHz/6MB L3 Cache) - Intel Core i5-3570K )
Processor Cooling ( Corsair Hydro Series H60 Liquid CPU Cooling System - ARC Dual Silent High Performance Fan Upgrade (Push-Pull Airflow) )
Memory ( 8 GB [4 GB X2] DDR3-1600 Memory Module - Corsair Vengeance )
Video Card ( AMD Radeon HD 7950 - 3GB - Single Card )
Motherboard ( ASRock Z77 Extreme4 -- 2x PCI-E 3.0 x16, 4x USB 3.0 )
Power Supply ( 650 Watt - Corsair CMPSU-650TXV2 )
Primary Hard Drive ( 1 TB HARD DRIVE -- 32M Cache, 7200 RPM, 6.0Gb/s - Single Drive )
Optical Drive ( 24X Dual Format/Double Layer DVD±R/±RW + CD-R/RW Drive - Black )
Sound Card ( ASUS Xonar DG )
Network Card ( Onboard LAN Network (Gb or 10/100) )
Operating System ( Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium + Office Starter 2010 (Includes basic versions of Word and Excel) - 64-Bit )
Monitor (from Amazon) ASUS VS228H-P 21.5-Inch Full-HD LED Monitor (Black)
iBUYPOWER Standard gaming keyboard and mouse (it'll get me by)
Thanks again.
-Skippy50351
You. Do. Not. Want. To. Order. From. iBUYPOWER. Overpriced. Poor quality. Professional wiring my donkey. They'll apply cheap thermal paste. Liquid cooling is bad until a custom loop, which is $200-500, and not built by some company like iBUYPOWER. OP, you're going to be best buying your own parts and finding a local tech shop if you're so adamant on not building it yourself.
"Programmers never repeat themselves. They loop."
But do you have any personal experience with them?
"Programmers never repeat themselves. They loop."
Overpriced?
Basically the same build here: http://pcpartpicker.com/p/t1wI
That build is for $1182.05.
So you're thinking, "still $200 overpriced". Except it's not. That build is WITHOUT a mouse and keyboard, without the fee a shop would charge, without the dual 120mm fans, without the free games, (specfically, $80 Far Cry 3), without a 3 year warranty, without advanced packaging, and without neon cathode lights.
After all that, is it really overpriced? Maybe by about $100, until you figure in labor, free shipping, and professional wiring.
So for iBUYPOWER being overpriced: It comes ready to go out of the box, and honestly I'm not seeing how it is in this case.
As for the cheap thermal paste and bad quality; I think the reviews speak for themselves. Even if it is crap, I have 3 years to get it completely fixed.
But don't let me seem like a jerk. I really appreciate the comment, it had me research iBUYPOWER and other comparing prices. I'm just not so sure why everyone is so against prebuilts...
Okay, go for it if you want. Just don't except ANY part of it to last more than 2-3 months.
You get individual warranties on each part, which is far superior to sending the entire machine back.
The wiring in the machine will be just whatever they can get to work.
That build is bad anyways, I didn't even look at it at first.
Here is a better build that comes with your 3 free games, that is actually much cheaper.
PCPartPicker part list / Price breakdown by merchant / Benchmarks
CPU: Intel Core i5-3570K 3.4GHz Quad-Core Processor ($214.99 @ Amazon)
CPU Cooler: Cooler Master Hyper 212 EVO 82.9 CFM Sleeve Bearing CPU Cooler ($24.99 @ Newegg)
Motherboard: ASRock Z77 Extreme4 ATX LGA1155 Motherboard ($129.98 @ Outlet PC)
Memory: Corsair Vengeance 8GB (2 x 4GB) DDR3-1600 Memory ($43.99 @ Amazon)
Storage: Western Digital Caviar Blue 1TB 3.5" 7200RPM Internal Hard Drive ($69.99 @ NCIX US)
Video Card: Sapphire Radeon HD 7950 3GB Video Card ($279.99 @ Newegg)
Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 ATX Mid Tower Case ($49.49 @ SuperBiiz)
Power Supply: Rosewill Hive 550W 80 PLUS Bronze Certified ATX12V / EPS12V Power Supply ($59.49 @ Amazon)
Optical Drive: Asus DRW-24B1ST/BLK/B/AS DVD/CD Writer ($24.98 @ Newegg)
Operating System: Microsoft Windows 7 Home Premium SP1 (OEM) (64-bit) ($89.98 @ Outlet PC)
Total: $987.87
(Prices include shipping, taxes, and discounts when available.)
(Generated by PCPartPicker 2012-12-18 00:13 EST-0500)
"Programmers never repeat themselves. They loop."