So the entire week my English class is in the computer lab typing up an essay comparing a leader in a novel we read to a world leader. Which means we need to research on the internet for quotes and citations. On Friday my teacher went over with us what sites aren't good and what sites are good for research. Obviously Wikipedia was one of the first sites she told us to stay away from. Now here is the funny thing, about a week or so ago the school decided to put in more restrictions to our internet use, it was bad before but it's worse. When I got into the lab and tried doing some research guess what? Pretty much everything I clicked on was blocked, everything, except for one site... Can you guess what it is? Yeah, it's Wikipedia... at this point i felt like flipping my desk over but I was too tired to lift my arm so I didn't bother. Grrr, guess I'm going to have to do the work at home...
Does anyone else have a school like mine where they have ridiculous internet restrictions?
we have a you tube filter that only displays "Educational" Videos, us students figured out that removing the last 2 letters in the url allows you to watch any vids you want... for year, until they fixed it...
We even thought the teachers how to do it, no s given.
Homeschooling FTW? JALC (the community college I take a class at) also doesn't have any restrictions that I've seen so far.
Still, you need to take a look at it from the other side of things. There's some pretty valid reasons to block stuff on school and government networks.
“Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.” — Albert Einstein
"Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig." — Robert Heinlein
Stand in one of our shoes, you'll see why it has to be like this.
Generally sites are blacklisted when ads/the site have malware, this is probably what you experienced.
Having seen the other side of that, wouldn't a good firewall and good end point protection work just as well? Or just use Deep-Freeze with a shared network drive for static workstations? Assuming that it's a stereotypical Windows setup.
My schools internet filter pops up a little message asking for an admin account and password, if you click cancel enough it goes away eventually. If that doesn't work just change http:// to https:// always works.
My schools internet filter pops up a little message asking for an admin account and password, if you click cancel enough it goes away eventually. If that doesn't work just change http:// to https:// always works.
Having seen the other side of that, wouldn't a good firewall and good end point protection work just as well? Or just use Deep-Freeze with a shared network drive for static workstations? Assuming that it's a stereotypical Windows setup.
Nope and nope.
The stereotypical setup is a bunch of switches connected to a single server running Windows Server, usually 2003, connected to a single hub/router (sometimes a second server) connected to a single access point, which causes immense congestion.
From there, connected to the hubs are the computers, usually workstation PCs with their own per machine install of windows. Not off an overall system image from a server with write protection (which would be best).
It's cheap because it has to be cheap. It's government funding and this is the last place schools can spend big money (unless they get a budget strictly for new computers, in which case, they go out and buy 50 mac pros). It's a pretty easy/standard setup because they don't need it to do much, and while re-imaging a PC is not that big of a deal, it's still something that takes time and money to do. Or worse, they outsource their IT because there is no one from the government appointed to maintain their systems.
The stereotypical setup is a bunch of switches connected to a single server running Windows Server, usually 2003, connected to a single hub/router (sometimes a second server) connected to a single access point, which causes immense congestion.
From there, connected to the hubs are the computers, usually workstation PCs with their own per machine install of windows. Not off an overall system image from a server with write protection (which would be best).
It's cheap because it has to be cheap. It's government funding and this is the last place schools can spend big money (unless they get a budget strictly for new computers, in which case, they go out and buy 50 mac pros). It's a pretty easy/standard setup because they don't need it to do much, and while re-imaging a PC is not that big of a deal, it's still something that takes time and money to do. Or worse, they outsource their IT because there is no one from the government appointed to maintain their systems.
So basically they take tons of taxpayer money (43% freaking income tax where I live), then ask morons/lazy people how to invest it?
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The stereotypical setup is a bunch of switches connected to a single server running Windows Server, usually 2003, connected to a single hub/router (sometimes a second server) connected to a single access point, which causes immense congestion.
From there, connected to the hubs are the computers, usually workstation PCs with their own per machine install of windows. Not off an overall system image from a server with write protection (which would be best).
Yep I can vouch for this. Heard tech guys at my school talking about stuff like this. We have a higher budget for computers, but we use this kind of set up
The stereotypical setup is a bunch of switches connected to a single server running Windows Server, usually 2003, connected to a single hub/router (sometimes a second server) connected to a single access point, which causes immense congestion.
From there, connected to the hubs are the computers, usually workstation PCs with their own per machine install of windows. Not off an overall system image from a server with write protection (which would be best).
It's cheap because it has to be cheap. It's government funding and this is the last place schools can spend big money (unless they get a budget strictly for new computers, in which case, they go out and buy 50 mac pros). It's a pretty easy/standard setup because they don't need it to do much, and while re-imaging a PC is not that big of a deal, it's still something that takes time and money to do. Or worse, they outsource their IT because there is no one from the government appointed to maintain their systems.
The stereotypical setup is a bunch of switches connected to a single server running Windows Server, usually 2003, connected to a single hub/router (sometimes a second server) connected to a single access point, which causes immense congestion.
From there, connected to the hubs are the computers, usually workstation PCs with their own per machine install of windows. Not off an overall system image from a server with write protection (which would be best).
It's cheap because it has to be cheap. It's government funding and this is the last place schools can spend big money (unless they get a budget strictly for new computers, in which case, they go out and buy 50 mac pros). It's a pretty easy/standard setup because they don't need it to do much, and while re-imaging a PC is not that big of a deal, it's still something that takes time and money to do. Or worse, they outsource their IT because there is no one from the government appointed to maintain their systems.
I still don't see why they need to block almost every site on the internet, all they have to do is intsal chrome and adblock and the malware problem is solved...
I still don't see why they need to block almost every site on the internet, all they have to do is intsal chrome and adblock and the malware problem is solved...
Lets say you have an infection that will kill you in 10 days.
Option A is to get rid of it with antibiotics. It's cheap, effective, but has some side effects. Take the pills on time and it's gone in 4 days.
Option B is to filter your blood through a machine. It's time consuming, expensive, only about half as effective, but has no/very few side effects. Because it is so time consuming, it will take around 8 or 9 days, assuming no problems, to complete the procedure.
So if you were the Doctor, patient, or insurance company, which one would you choose?
Also you need permission to install chrome and adblock among other things. The government, the supervisors and superintendent, they will want documentation which means contacting google and adblock for documentation stating you can use it. IT doesn't matter if it's FOSS or not, everything has to have a paper trail.
You can also just use the default admin password (Blank password usually) in XP.
Also try a portable version of Chrome or Water/Firefox with HTTPS everywhere.
My school network still runs on XP, using IE6 or 7, whichever it was. I use HTTPS everywhere on Waterfox myself. It's a neat little plugin. The admin password is some random assortment of characters, but I'm not willing to hack it and get expelled. Besides, it's extremely easy to bypass without any hacking that they could expel me for.
My school network still runs on XP, using IE6 or 7, whichever it was. I use HTTPS everywhere on Waterfox myself. It's a neat little plugin. The admin password is some random assortment of characters, but I'm not willing to hack it and get expelled. Besides, it's extremely easy to bypass without any hacking that they could expel me for.
you won't get expelled lmao, i did it to my schools system and played around with the teachers files and barely anything happened.
you won't get expelled lmao, i did it to my schools system and played around with the teachers files and barely anything happened.
Yeah. no, don't use this as an example. Kids have been expelled for opening the command prompt and not even doing anything with it.
Seriously, schools have no idea how to handle this sort of thing, and they will suspend and/or expel you. I've seen it happen numerous times from seemingly "innocent" activity.
This is basically saying "I've murdered numerous people and haven't been caught, I'm even on the police force. Nothing really even happened".
Does anyone else have a school like mine where they have ridiculous internet restrictions?
We even thought the teachers how to do it, no s given.
Stand in one of our shoes, you'll see why it has to be like this.
Generally sites are blacklisted when ads/the site have malware, this is probably what you experienced.
Still, you need to take a look at it from the other side of things. There's some pretty valid reasons to block stuff on school and government networks.
"Never try to teach a pig to sing; it wastes your time and it annoys the pig." — Robert Heinlein
(There was also a stint where they had HowStuffWorks, and Inspire [huge database of academic papers] blocked)
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Having seen the other side of that, wouldn't a good firewall and good end point protection work just as well? Or just use Deep-Freeze with a shared network drive for static workstations? Assuming that it's a stereotypical Windows setup.
Yup.
Ever looked at this?
http://ophcrack.sourceforge.net/
You can also just use the default admin password (Blank password usually) in XP.
Also try a portable version of Chrome or Water/Firefox with HTTPS everywhere.
The stereotypical setup is a bunch of switches connected to a single server running Windows Server, usually 2003, connected to a single hub/router (sometimes a second server) connected to a single access point, which causes immense congestion.
From there, connected to the hubs are the computers, usually workstation PCs with their own per machine install of windows. Not off an overall system image from a server with write protection (which would be best).
It's cheap because it has to be cheap. It's government funding and this is the last place schools can spend big money (unless they get a budget strictly for new computers, in which case, they go out and buy 50 mac pros). It's a pretty easy/standard setup because they don't need it to do much, and while re-imaging a PC is not that big of a deal, it's still something that takes time and money to do. Or worse, they outsource their IT because there is no one from the government appointed to maintain their systems.
So basically they take tons of taxpayer money (43% freaking income tax where I live), then ask morons/lazy people how to invest it?
Yep I can vouch for this. Heard tech guys at my school talking about stuff like this. We have a higher budget for computers, but we use this kind of set up
That's quite a bit of ery...
I hate this censor....
Also you need permission to install chrome and adblock among other things. The government, the supervisors and superintendent, they will want documentation which means contacting google and adblock for documentation stating you can use it. IT doesn't matter if it's FOSS or not, everything has to have a paper trail.
TL;DR: blame bureaucracy.
My school network still runs on XP, using IE6 or 7, whichever it was. I use HTTPS everywhere on Waterfox myself. It's a neat little plugin. The admin password is some random assortment of characters, but I'm not willing to hack it and get expelled. Besides, it's extremely easy to bypass without any hacking that they could expel me for.
you won't get expelled lmao, i did it to my schools system and played around with the teachers files and barely anything happened.
Seriously, schools have no idea how to handle this sort of thing, and they will suspend and/or expel you. I've seen it happen numerous times from seemingly "innocent" activity.
This is basically saying "I've murdered numerous people and haven't been caught, I'm even on the police force. Nothing really even happened".