Looks like AMD is taking over mobile computer division, and budget level at that. Seems discrete GPUs soon will just be obiterated, but then comes CPU power. However laptops and tablets are not meant for power housing CPU work, but this is promising indeed.
Even more reason not to use Intel HD graphics for playing Minecraft. I'm really hoping that AMD's next iteration of APU's will have significant gains CPU wise because some benchmarks have shown that the graphics are being bottlenecked by the slower CPU. This could mean that GPU performance could improve just by increasing CPU performance. Trinity may not be the best for gaming as it still falls short at 1080p compared to discrete graphics cards, but if steady progress is made they may prove worthy of more than just mobile gaming where screen resolution is lower.
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Trinity may not be the best for gaming as it still falls short at 1080p compared to discrete graphics cards, but if steady progress is made they may prove worthy of more than just mobile gaming where screen resolution is lower.
Trinity is on the same process as Llano this limited the improvement we could see. CPU wise its quite the step up GPU wise less so.
Kaveri should bring larger changes to the GPU going from VLIW4 to GCN. It will also be using Steamroller with the new high density libraries we should get more room for the GPU.
AMD said we will see a Teraflop performance out of Kaveri that brings it to 7770 level.
Kaveri is also rumored to have on die or sideport VRAM.
Trinity is on the same process as Llano this limited the improvement we could see. CPU wise its quite the step up GPU wise less so.
Kaveri should bring larger changes to the GPU going from VLIW4 to GCN. It will also be using Steamroller with the new high density libraries we should get more room for the GPU.
AMD said we will see a Teraflop performance out of Kaveri that brings it to 7770 level.
Kaveri is also rumored to have on die or sideport VRAM.
Wow, if we could see GPU performance at the level of a 7770 in an APU that would be fantastic. Something like that would be great for budget gamers that play on lower resolutions like 1280x720 and 1680x1050 because even BF3 could be played at around medium-high settings without the use of a dedicated graphics card. Something like that would also be great for SFF gaming rigs since you would save a lot of space by using integrated graphics.
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Wow, if we could see GPU performance at the level of a 7770 in an APU that would be fantastic. Something like that would be great for budget gamers that play on lower resolutions like 1280x720 and 1680x1050 because even BF3 could be played at around medium-high settings without the use of a dedicated graphics card. Something like that would also be great for SFF gaming rigs since you would save a lot of space by using integrated graphics.
AMD said we will see a Teraflop performance out of Kaveri that brings it to 7770 level.
Kaveri is also rumored to have on die or sideport VRAM.
Sideport Vram, if they can squeeze 256MB to 1GB Vram on die, that will murderize some competition in the mobile area to speak. More so if GDDR5 or higher by that time. Considering as said DDR4 is not far away, but GDDR and DDR are not the same.
Now if only the world of Open CL can be tapped into.
They aren't but bandwidth is bandwidth and the APUs need to be fed lots of data.
That could pose a problem, but I see why though on the behalf GDDR5 can get toasty by nature if at the clocks and volts it normally runs at. Would make sense why they use DDR3 or DDR4 equals.
That could pose a problem, but I see why though on the behalf GDDR5 can get toasty by nature if at the clocks and volts it normally runs at. Would make sense why they use DDR3 or DDR4 equals.
GDDR5 could be downclocked to fit within the thermal budget. It would be a better option it has a higher bandwidth per pin it has much higher latency but that's not an issue for graphics.
It really does not need to be massive either and it really only needs to be maybe 64MB on Mobile 128MB on desktop.
Some of the leaks are claiming 512MB for the desktop A10s but I doubt it would be that much.
Here are the benchmarks Tomshardware released in June.
http://www.tomshardw...5400k,3224.html
http://www.legitrevi...article/2043/1/
http://www.anandtech...k-review-part-1
The medium end A8 ***** slaps Intels highest end offerings.
The only big surprise is CPU performance.
Both running a dedicated GPU.
This is a AMD APU holding its own against a I5 Llano was not capable of doing this.
This is just gaming.
Hopefully we get more CPU benchmarks.
But for now here is this.
Indeed, very promising. Teehee.
This definitely seems like something that would be good for a nice HTPC.
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Although, I'm more interested in getting some real benchmarks for Intel's Haswell (as well as an expected release date).
Even more reason not to use Intel HD graphics for playing Minecraft. I'm really hoping that AMD's next iteration of APU's will have significant gains CPU wise because some benchmarks have shown that the graphics are being bottlenecked by the slower CPU. This could mean that GPU performance could improve just by increasing CPU performance. Trinity may not be the best for gaming as it still falls short at 1080p compared to discrete graphics cards, but if steady progress is made they may prove worthy of more than just mobile gaming where screen resolution is lower.
Haswell won't be around tell Q3 of next year.
Trinity is on the same process as Llano this limited the improvement we could see. CPU wise its quite the step up GPU wise less so.
Kaveri should bring larger changes to the GPU going from VLIW4 to GCN. It will also be using Steamroller with the new high density libraries we should get more room for the GPU.
AMD said we will see a Teraflop performance out of Kaveri that brings it to 7770 level.
Kaveri is also rumored to have on die or sideport VRAM.
Wow, if we could see GPU performance at the level of a 7770 in an APU that would be fantastic. Something like that would be great for budget gamers that play on lower resolutions like 1280x720 and 1680x1050 because even BF3 could be played at around medium-high settings without the use of a dedicated graphics card. Something like that would also be great for SFF gaming rigs since you would save a lot of space by using integrated graphics.
It will still be below 7770.
7770 1.2TFLOPS
Kaveri HighEnd 1 TFLOPS
7750 863GLFOP
But my guess is without sideport or ondie VRAM its going to be below the 7750 in Gaming performance at higher resolutions.
DDR4 could help but its not a good solution its still a lot slower then GDDR5.
Sideport Vram, if they can squeeze 256MB to 1GB Vram on die, that will murderize some competition in the mobile area to speak. More so if GDDR5 or higher by that time. Considering as said DDR4 is not far away, but GDDR and DDR are not the same.
Now if only the world of Open CL can be tapped into.
They aren't but bandwidth is bandwidth and the APUs need to be fed lots of data.
Hopefully AMD prices their RAM cheap maybe put in some combo deals with Newegg to put in fast RAM.
That could pose a problem, but I see why though on the behalf GDDR5 can get toasty by nature if at the clocks and volts it normally runs at. Would make sense why they use DDR3 or DDR4 equals.
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GDDR5 could be downclocked to fit within the thermal budget. It would be a better option it has a higher bandwidth per pin it has much higher latency but that's not an issue for graphics.
It really does not need to be massive either and it really only needs to be maybe 64MB on Mobile 128MB on desktop.
Some of the leaks are claiming 512MB for the desktop A10s but I doubt it would be that much.