I'm sick of just taking it for granted that there are spammers on the internet and they are going to spam. I don't want to just push any spam I get under the rug and say the problem is solved.
I want to actually do something to target the spam at its source, and make it so there's actually less spam being sent to peoples emails, and being posted on forums and social networks. Actually solve the problem instead of just covering up the symptoms as they come. Something with a little more lasting impact than just hitting "report as spam" and hoping the mods will take care of it.
Just don't post your personal email publicly and don't give it to anyone or any company you don't trust. I'm not 100% sure what you are asking but email spam would be much more rare than it is now if everyone did that.
Just don't post your personal email publicly and don't give it to anyone or any company you don't trust. I'm not 100% sure what you are asking but email spam would be much more rare than it is now if everyone did that.
I get a lot of spam, I just junk it and it'll sort most of the spam out.
Nuke it from orbit it is the only way to make sure.
In reality sending spam reality is not illegal so its hard to go after the people that do it.
Without legislation like SOPA and PIPA it would be pretty hard to go after them.
Yeah not sure what you're asking about. You can't just stop spam, there will always be bots unless the internet shuts down. You can however like pretzelguy1 said, do this. Make sure you don't give out your email to any one you don't trust, COMPANY or NOT. And don't sign up on random websites with personal information, like sweep stakes. If you are already getting hit by spam, I'm sure most modern email providers like gmail, hotmail, and yahoo have spam filters and the ability to block groups of emails from their domain, and by each email address, I have over 500 blocked emails and 20 domains, but ever since I did that I only get 10 spam per month? And they go in my junk email section so I don't look at them. Hope this helps.
Just don't post your personal email publicly and don't give it to anyone or any company you don't trust. I'm not 100% sure what you are asking but email spam would be much more rare than it is now if everyone did that.
No, that would just be avoiding spam. I want to get rid of spam, as in, for everyone not just for me. I don't really receive that much spam personally, but there's possibly of spam emails and spam posts out there on the internet, and more every second. I want to solve that.
No, that would just be avoiding spam. I want to get rid of spam, as in, for everyone not just for me. I don't really receive that much spam personally, but there's possibly of spam emails and spam posts out there on the internet, and more every second. I want to solve that.
No, that would just be avoiding spam. I want to get rid of spam, as in, for everyone not just for me. I don't really receive that much spam personally, but there's possibly of spam emails and spam posts out there on the internet, and more every second. I want to solve that.
Well if something like SOPA or PIPA is passed, then yes, spam could be pretty much eliminated (along with freedom).
EDIT: Yeah, looking back at that one that was a pretty silly statement.
If you sign up for ANYTHING, it's very likely that your email and account info will end up on somebody's hey-look-bigger-penis-pills-i-should-send list.
For example: I do a lot of online shopping. As a result, on this very thread page, I have ads from both Amazon and Newegg. Now I know when you say "spam," you're referring to email spam like the aforementioned example, but personalized spam suits my argument more.
Also, as long as there are two people on this planet, someone is going to spam someone else. Case and point:
TL;DR
Please sir, my cousin needs your help. A donation of <gofirkyourself> would be much appreciated.
Sincerely,
Starving illiterate African children from the small tsunami-riddled country of the moon.
It's impossible. People get spam in the postal mail too. Absolutely no way to stop it.
The best you can do is to use a separate email (or disposable email addresses, like SpamGourmet) to sign up for newsletters and stuff. That way, no one can get your real email so the only people that can send you messages are your friends.
There is literally nothing you can do about it.
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Blocking the senders reduce spam, or should, for some reason I feel the more I block the spam senders, the more they send with e-mails like this [email protected]
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Blocking the senders reduce spam, or should, for some reason I feel the more I block the spam senders, the more they send with e-mails like this [email protected]
Unfortunately when you block 1 spammer, 100 more are created.
Blocking is not a solution at all, and is futile. You're basically trying to fill the desert with water by getting a bucket from your home, filling it with water, driving all the way out to the desert, pouring it on the ground, and repeating.
Blocking the senders reduce spam, or should, for some reason I feel the more I block the spam senders, the more they send with e-mails like this [email protected]
Again, that's not what I'm asking about. Please reread the OP.
No, that would just be avoiding spam. I want to get rid of spam, as in, for everyone not just for me. I don't really receive that much spam personally, but there's possibly of spam emails and spam posts out there on the internet, and more every second. I want to solve that.
This is impossible. I could leave it at that, but let's actually explain it.
Like Junk mail, the only real way to stop it is to avoid it. And the weak spot of spammers, like Junk mail, is their message. With our own real-life mail, we have a filter. Flashy, colourful glossy paper usually triggers our "junk mail" senses, and a quick look will confirm it is at which point it goes in the recycle. (Of course you can actually stop junk mail by doing something like saving it and waiting for a junk mail that has a postage paid "business reply" mail, and then putting a bunch of junk mail in it and sending that along, which usually get's them quite annoyed since they have to pay the mailage, hahaha...
To us, Spam is pretty easy to recognize. If you hired somebody to read your mail and get rid of spam, they would have no difficulty in doing so. (And, at this point, neither do most E-Mail services, which quite aptly put spam mail in a junk folder for you). Spam filtering is pretty easy with bayesian filtering algorithms. But let's not get into that. Overall the approach is now statistical.
The senders of spam range from businesses running so-called "opt in" mailing lists who don't even try to conceal their identities, to guys who hijack mail-servers to send out spam mail promoting pornographic sites. With advanced filtering, spam very seldom get's past filtering. Again, this isn't really the place to discuss the algorithm itself, but even something like "hey, check out this site: <url>" is unlikely to get past spam filters of today, assuming those spam filters take a statistical approach. This eliminates spam from more "legitimate" sources, since they will usually have boilerplate about why their mail isn't spam and how to remove yourself from the mailing list, which is easy to recognize from a filter point of view.
Stricter laws won't decrease the amount of spam that is sent, but it will make spam easier to recognize thanks to spammers trying to cover their asses legally.
All along the spectrum, if you restrict the sales pitches that spammers can make, you will inevitably put them out of business. The word "business" is important here. Spammers are businessmen. They send spam because it works. It works because even though the response rate is abysmal (maybe 15 for every 1 million mails sent, as opposed to a few thousand for an equal number of snail-mail junk catalogs) The cost is almost nothing. The cost in fact is shouldered by recipients. It does, however, cost the sender something. So the lower we can get the response rate (via filters) then the fewer businesses will find it worthwhile to send spam to begin with.
For email, I'm unsure if there is much you can do about it, as I haven't really researched mailing servers nor how mailing lists work (by extension, how one could set up a spam list).
For the rest of the web, a lot of it can be prevented by some super easy server-side logic. As for people signing up using spambots or other automated methods, I'm not quite sure. It would have to be some server-side logic again (it could be client-side, but that's not as reliable as server-side).
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I want to actually do something to target the spam at its source, and make it so there's actually less spam being sent to peoples emails, and being posted on forums and social networks. Actually solve the problem instead of just covering up the symptoms as they come. Something with a little more lasting impact than just hitting "report as spam" and hoping the mods will take care of it.
Is there any way to do this?
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2 or 3 months.A long-ass time.Oh boy, visual basic. I can barely contain my excitement. Not.
I get a lot of spam, I just junk it and it'll sort most of the spam out.
In reality sending spam reality is not illegal so its hard to go after the people that do it.
Without legislation like SOPA and PIPA it would be pretty hard to go after them.
No, that would just be avoiding spam. I want to get rid of spam, as in, for everyone not just for me. I don't really receive that much spam personally, but there's possibly of spam emails and spam posts out there on the internet, and more every second. I want to solve that.
Also check me out on:
WordPress, Etsy, and Spore.
2 words. Good Luck.
Well if something like SOPA or PIPA is passed, then yes, spam could be pretty much eliminated (along with freedom).EDIT: Yeah, looking back at that one that was a pretty silly statement.
2 or 3 months.A long-ass time.Oh boy, visual basic. I can barely contain my excitement. Not.
There is literally nothing you can do about it.
That's all there is to it. No, even if it were eliminated it wouldn't do anything to spam.
Spam is pretty much unstoppable.
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For example: I do a lot of online shopping. As a result, on this very thread page, I have ads from both Amazon and Newegg. Now I know when you say "spam," you're referring to email spam like the aforementioned example, but personalized spam suits my argument more.
Also, as long as there are two people on this planet, someone is going to spam someone else. Case and point:
TL;DR
Please sir, my cousin needs your help. A donation of <gofirkyourself> would be much appreciated.
Sincerely,
Starving illiterate African children from the small tsunami-riddled country of the moon.
The best you can do is to use a separate email (or disposable email addresses, like SpamGourmet) to sign up for newsletters and stuff. That way, no one can get your real email so the only people that can send you messages are your friends.
Also check me out on:
WordPress, Etsy, and Spore.
The thing is your plan would not work without cooperation world wide to shutdown spam servers and that would only put a dent in the numbers.
Blocking the senders reduce spam, or should, for some reason I feel the more I block the spam senders, the more they send with e-mails like this [email protected]
Blocking is not a solution at all, and is futile. You're basically trying to fill the desert with water by getting a bucket from your home, filling it with water, driving all the way out to the desert, pouring it on the ground, and repeating.
Again, that's not what I'm asking about. Please reread the OP.
Also check me out on:
WordPress, Etsy, and Spore.
This is impossible. I could leave it at that, but let's actually explain it.
Like Junk mail, the only real way to stop it is to avoid it. And the weak spot of spammers, like Junk mail, is their message. With our own real-life mail, we have a filter. Flashy, colourful glossy paper usually triggers our "junk mail" senses, and a quick look will confirm it is at which point it goes in the recycle. (Of course you can actually stop junk mail by doing something like saving it and waiting for a junk mail that has a postage paid "business reply" mail, and then putting a bunch of junk mail in it and sending that along, which usually get's them quite annoyed since they have to pay the mailage, hahaha...
To us, Spam is pretty easy to recognize. If you hired somebody to read your mail and get rid of spam, they would have no difficulty in doing so. (And, at this point, neither do most E-Mail services, which quite aptly put spam mail in a junk folder for you). Spam filtering is pretty easy with bayesian filtering algorithms. But let's not get into that. Overall the approach is now statistical.
The senders of spam range from businesses running so-called "opt in" mailing lists who don't even try to conceal their identities, to guys who hijack mail-servers to send out spam mail promoting pornographic sites. With advanced filtering, spam very seldom get's past filtering. Again, this isn't really the place to discuss the algorithm itself, but even something like "hey, check out this site: <url>" is unlikely to get past spam filters of today, assuming those spam filters take a statistical approach. This eliminates spam from more "legitimate" sources, since they will usually have boilerplate about why their mail isn't spam and how to remove yourself from the mailing list, which is easy to recognize from a filter point of view.
Stricter laws won't decrease the amount of spam that is sent, but it will make spam easier to recognize thanks to spammers trying to cover their asses legally.
All along the spectrum, if you restrict the sales pitches that spammers can make, you will inevitably put them out of business. The word "business" is important here. Spammers are businessmen. They send spam because it works. It works because even though the response rate is abysmal (maybe 15 for every 1 million mails sent, as opposed to a few thousand for an equal number of snail-mail junk catalogs) The cost is almost nothing. The cost in fact is shouldered by recipients. It does, however, cost the sender something. So the lower we can get the response rate (via filters) then the fewer businesses will find it worthwhile to send spam to begin with.
For the rest of the web, a lot of it can be prevented by some super easy server-side logic. As for people signing up using spambots or other automated methods, I'm not quite sure. It would have to be some server-side logic again (it could be client-side, but that's not as reliable as server-side).
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