What do you think? I'm building a computer soon, but is it worth the wait? I know it'll still be awhile, but why buy one now just for it to be outdated.
Other question:
How does dual booting work?
And.
If i get an OEM version of windows 7, could i re-install it on the computer i'm using if i ever need to?
Don't wait, just get Windows 7. Only $100 for W7, so no need to wait until W8 comes out before you build the computer; just install it when it comes out.
Or if you're low on cash, get Linux while you wait.
Don't wait, just get Windows 7. Only $100 for W7, so no need to wait until W8 comes out before you build the computer; just install it when it comes out.
Or if you're low on cash, get Linux while you wait.
It's more of which one will work better, some say W8 will be good while many others say it won't. I'll just get W7. Unless someone persuades me.
Windows 8 is too quick. Vista's interval to Win7 is 4 years, and now you're waiting Win8 for 2 years. Microsoft is being too hurried. Just get Win7 for now.
For your other questions:
Dual booting works by allowing a system to have two OSes at once. If you get two OSes installed, chances are there should've been a list asking to which OS you want to boot. Installing Win7 over WinXP is simple, but doing the reverse is a little harder. Interwebs have your answers for these. (or, if you don't want hassle, try VirtualBox. :wink.gif:)
I guess you can reinstall Windows 7 on the computer you're using if you ever need to.
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Nothing wrong with Windows 8 im running it right now. It uses less ram then my Ubuntu. The Tile UI is for tablets only you got to remember this will be running on Mobile devices. Right now its just optimized win 7 with a few new features.
Windows 8 is targeted more at tablets, and if this follows the OS cycle that has been going on since windows 3.1 (good, bad, good, bad, etc.) it will be the windows release to skip.
What programs win8 has been pretty smooth on both my computer other then a small issue with some drivers.
My problems might be because I'm in a VM, or maybe I have something configured wrong with it.
Firefox, chrome, and flash installers both crashed almost instantly.
Media Player Classic causes the new bluescreen when trying to render any video (even with hardware accel and rendering effects turned off).
Windows media player freezes quite often, seemingly at random, either when playing music, video, viewing the menus, or idle.
IE won't load any web pages after about 10 minutes of use (404).
The command prompt just sits there at "_" and will not take any input.
And the OS itself 8-9 times out of 10 will not boot properly, freeze for no reason with a USB mouse, or BSOD when trying to shut down (but these are likely due to the gigantic clusterf*** of the dev build, especially in regards to booting, which can take between 8 seconds and 15 minutes depending on how it's mood is).
I'll try tweaking some VM settings and maybe reinstalling to see if it helps.
Yes they are. Metro UI isn't optional, and the Metro UI is just a full screen IE10 window.
They say it will be optional in the final version, but from what I've seen of the non-metro UI I still don't want any part in it.
ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU CANNOT RESIZE OR REMOVE THE GD RIBBON TOOLBAR
HOW DID THAT CATCH ON???
LOOK AT THIS, WTF!?
It takes up a HUGE chunk of the window! Especially at tablet screen resolutions (800x600/1024x768/1200x800), it makes explorer completely unusable, so there is no way it's meant only for the tablet/metro UI.
I just don't understand, what the hell was so complicated about text labels and menus? Or in the case of 7, no toolbar at all!
This isn't even touching the sidebar, and bottom bar that are STILL PRESENT IN METRO AND GIGANTIC
Sure they are resizable, but with the ribbon toolbar at the top it makes even trying to use explorer a nightmare with a mouse, let alone a touch screen!
They say it will be optional in the final version, but from what I've seen of the non-metro UI I still don't want any part in it.
ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU CANNOT RESIZE OR REMOVE THE GD RIBBON TOOLBAR
HOW DID THAT CATCH ON???
LOOK AT THIS, WTF!?
It takes up a HUGE chunk of the window! Especially at tablet screen resolutions, it makes explorer completely unusable, so there is no way it's meant only for the tablet/metro UI.
I just don't understand, what the hell was so complicated about text labels and menus? Or in the case of 7, no toolbar at all!
This isn't even touching the sidebar, and bottom bar that are STILL PRESENT IN METRO AND GIGANTIC
Sure they are resizable, but with the ribbon toolbar at the top it makes even trying to use explorer a nightmare with a mouse, let alone a touch screen!
Wait, from what I've heard it replaces the start menu...
The metro "splash" screen replaces the start menu, however, other elements of the UI that are part of the metro are also part of the non-metro UI. It looks and feels awful to be completely honest. Clunky, confusing, and unnecessarily annoying.
What MS said was that the entire metro UI would be optional for non tablets, the problem is that while most of it sort-of is, many parts are not.
I'm still confused as to why they feel replacing the start menu with essentially "Program Manager" from 3.1/the 360 dashboard is such a great idea.
Other question:
How does dual booting work?
And.
If i get an OEM version of windows 7, could i re-install it on the computer i'm using if i ever need to?
Or if you're low on cash, get Linux while you wait.
It's more of which one will work better, some say W8 will be good while many others say it won't. I'll just get W7. Unless someone persuades me.
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With dual-booting, you split the hard drive between two operating systems, and you can select which one to boot in the BIOS.
W7 is fine; IMO, W8 isn't worth the wait or money.
For your other questions:
Dual booting works by allowing a system to have two OSes at once. If you get two OSes installed, chances are there should've been a list asking to which OS you want to boot. Installing Win7 over WinXP is simple, but doing the reverse is a little harder. Interwebs have your answers for these. (or, if you don't want hassle, try VirtualBox. :wink.gif:)
I guess you can reinstall Windows 7 on the computer you're using if you ever need to.
Wait, does it force you to have it installed, or not allow other browsers?
I personally haven't looked at it yet.
EDIT: Definitely not getting it. They are heading in the same way as Apple.
Windows 8 is targeted more at tablets, and if this follows the OS cycle that has been going on since windows 3.1 (good, bad, good, bad, etc.) it will be the windows release to skip.
I am actually having a lot of compatibility issues with a lot of programs on Windows 8 the developer preview.
It IS a dev preview, yes, but this many issues is a bit.... much.
What programs win8 has been pretty smooth on both my computer other then a small issue with some drivers.
My problems might be because I'm in a VM, or maybe I have something configured wrong with it.
Firefox, chrome, and flash installers both crashed almost instantly.
Media Player Classic causes the new bluescreen when trying to render any video (even with hardware accel and rendering effects turned off).
Windows media player freezes quite often, seemingly at random, either when playing music, video, viewing the menus, or idle.
IE won't load any web pages after about 10 minutes of use (404).
The command prompt just sits there at "_" and will not take any input.
And the OS itself 8-9 times out of 10 will not boot properly, freeze for no reason with a USB mouse, or BSOD when trying to shut down (but these are likely due to the gigantic clusterf*** of the dev build, especially in regards to booting, which can take between 8 seconds and 15 minutes depending on how it's mood is).
I'll try tweaking some VM settings and maybe reinstalling to see if it helps.
Yes they are. Metro UI isn't optional, and the Metro UI is just a full screen IE10 window.
They say it will be optional in the final version, but from what I've seen of the non-metro UI I still don't want any part in it.
ESPECIALLY SINCE YOU CANNOT RESIZE OR REMOVE THE GD RIBBON TOOLBAR
HOW DID THAT CATCH ON???
LOOK AT THIS, WTF!?
It takes up a HUGE chunk of the window! Especially at tablet screen resolutions (800x600/1024x768/1200x800), it makes explorer completely unusable, so there is no way it's meant only for the tablet/metro UI.
I just don't understand, what the hell was so complicated about text labels and menus? Or in the case of 7, no toolbar at all!
This isn't even touching the sidebar, and bottom bar that are STILL PRESENT IN METRO AND GIGANTIC
Sure they are resizable, but with the ribbon toolbar at the top it makes even trying to use explorer a nightmare with a mouse, let alone a touch screen!
Wait, from what I've heard it replaces the start menu...
I'm using it in a VM right now (DL link).
The metro "splash" screen replaces the start menu, however, other elements of the UI that are part of the metro are also part of the non-metro UI. It looks and feels awful to be completely honest. Clunky, confusing, and unnecessarily annoying.
What MS said was that the entire metro UI would be optional for non tablets, the problem is that while most of it sort-of is, many parts are not.
I'm still confused as to why they feel replacing the start menu with essentially "Program Manager" from 3.1/the 360 dashboard is such a great idea.
Anyway no, I can not in good faith recommend Windows as an OS to use. I suggest a GNU/Linux operating system