Now assuming I'm talking to those who are of legal age, you are now or have been drinking alcohol. Be it beer, wine or spirits. You have probably had a taste of them all.
However, we will be sticking to the primary topic here, and that is beer and how it has begun to explode across the world.
Brand new breweries and variation are everywhere.
Here is a look what I used to think was an acceptable beer: a Bud, a Coors, or a Miller high life. But in these past few months I've discovered the craft world.
I no longer drink that **** water anymore, now, I'm having Imperial Double India Pale Ales, Stouts, Porter, Barley Wine, Oak Barrel Farmhouse Ales, Belgian Dubbel, Tripel, the list of amazing taste continues to go on.
As of today I have had over 188 unique beers (Which I continue to track on the App; Unttapd)
Simple research shows hundreds of new breweries, and brew house restaurants have been popping up all across America. In San Diego area a recent report of ~30-40 breweries are currently being planned and starting to distribute.
Look at how big Stone, Karl Strauss, Sam Adams, New Belgium, and others have become. These are great companys where you can taste how great their beer is in comparison to all the watered down bile that is sold to us daily.
I say, go out, find a BevMo, a reasonably stocked Liquor shop, check out a few bars, and taste something new that you’ve never heard of before. There are more beers than you can ever imagine and those Ye Olde Beers your grandpappy swears by will just be pond scum after you've opened up to the craft beer world.
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Now that my mission statement has been stated more or less.
To those of you who have already branched out into this fantastic world of Microbreweries and great taste. Let's talk about it some, tell me about any particular beer you've had recently or about local breweries you like to attend.
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Interesting Links:
http://beeradvocate.com/ - Rating Site, along with encyclopedia-esue information, a hub for the practiced drinker.
http://untappd.com/ - An application and website to rate, comment, log the beers you've had, and where you have had them.
"It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts."
::Quote from The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
It's okay, the hops aren't very well balanced and the taste is a bit lacking, but it is a hot day, and this beer is quite suitable for this weather, and for this sandwich.
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"It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts."
::Quote from The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
Protip, any beer with the phrase "high life" in the name is going to be false hope ghetto **** beer. As far as microbrews and craft beers go, I've got a list of stuff I want to try, but I don't have the money right now. I definitely plan on picking up some arrogant ******* soon, but I don't think that can really be considered a micro brew anymore considering how popular it is now.
Protip, any beer with the phrase "high life" in the name is going to be false hope ghetto **** beer. As far as microbrews and craft beers go, I've got a list of stuff I want to try, but I don't have the money right now. I definitely plan on picking up some arrogant ******* soon, but I don't think that can really be considered a micro brew anymore considering how popular it is now.
Arrogant ******* is definitely Stone's staple, and when you have the money, I certainly recommend you go to their brewery or even their restaurant out in the San Diego area.
As for that particular brew, I quite like it, along with its Oak Barrel variant. If you are up to more like it a few of the Rogues have a nice taste as well. I also recommend you don't go out and immediately try a India Pale Ale (or IPA) it won't be pleasant unless you have a few regular Pale ales first and adjust to the bitterness, then you can ascend the ladder of hoppiness towards master beers like Pliny the Elder from Russian River and Anniversary Ale from Port Brewing.
A couple other nice Stone beers would be Levitation, and Sublimely Self Righteous Ale.
MY protip: 32's that taste good tend to range between 5-10 dollars, secure that much money and your in like flint, you should also see if you might have suitableglassware for the particular beer you are drinking.
"It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts."
::Quote from The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
Meh. I've had a few IPAs. I'm very appreciative when it comes to things I like. I do enjoy bitter beers, but don't mind any beer. I judge alcohol and cigars based on how they compare with other examples in their classes. I wouldn't say an ale sucks because I prefer lagers or anything like that.
I help my dad brew beer. It's not illegal if I don't drink it.
That's nice, does he own a brewery or work for one?
Or is he a Homebrewer?
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"It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts."
::Quote from The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
Meh. I've had a few IPAs. I'm very appreciative when it comes to things I like. I do enjoy bitter beers, but don't mind any beer. I judge alcohol and cigars based on how they compare with other examples in their classes. I wouldn't say an ale sucks because I prefer lagers or anything like that.
I can appreciate cigars, a good 10 dollar macanudo is suitable for any situation, but when it comes to tasting other things, the smoke might ruin the taste of beers. (So if I'm done drinking, then, I'll have at a cigar)
But if you want some serious IPA's avoid the gas stations and grocery stores, only good beer-loving liquor stores or pubs like Killarneys will have a keen eye for the good stuff.
Mikkeller, Russian River, and the 10th Anniversary IPA Ruination from Stone. These places have keen examples of breweries and beers that actually have a stand out taste, nearly the best in fact.
When it comes to classification, lager, pilsner, and ale etc. Really if you drink enough different brands with the same class (which takes a while) you can figure out those subtle differences but also the similarities, a lager always needs that taste for it to be a lager.
But most of these classes are from the brewing methods anyway. A belgian trippel from Bruery might taste almost identical to a Boston Lager from Sam Adams, but the method of its creation is different and the difference of taste, even if slight, can still make it stand out.
"It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts."
::Quote from The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
That's nice, does he own a brewery or work for one?
Or is he a Homebrewer?
He's a homebrewer. Every other weekend we make it in our garage. He's got it on a cycle were one batch is being made, one batch is fermenting in a bucket, one batch is fermenting again after being moved to another bucket (so it keeps the dead yeast out of the beer), and one is being carbonated in bottles.
He's a homebrewer. Every other weekend we make it in our garage. He's got it on a cycle were one batch is being made, one batch is fermenting in a bucket, one batch is fermenting again after being moved to another bucket (so it keeps the dead yeast out of the beer), and one is being carbonated in bottles.
All of the same type of beer? Or is each batch unique? I've met a few homebrewers who use the same system but vary their types.
"It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts."
::Quote from The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
Always a good practice, how far does his interest reach? Will he keep up just home brewing, or does he hope to join in with a local brewery?
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"It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts."
::Quote from The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
He's active duty Navy right now, so he can't really join a brewery. It's just a hobby for him.
A great hobby to have then, still looking forward to when I can join the ranks of homebrewers.
And while I'm not sure if I might take this further into a profession i'm enjoying it as much as I can.
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"It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts."
::Quote from The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
Well that differs on the position I might seek, if I want to be a brewmaster I would be working for a brewery to set up the recipes and brew method. If I wanted to open a brewhouse restaurant I'd be working towards creating a menu alongside running the brewery.
Really to me, I can't really start a brewery or a brewhouse, but if I could be hired by a brewery as their brewmaster that would be a job I could really enjoy, it will be tough and require a lot of education into the world of microbiology and agriculture as well as all of the brewing technical methodology. To me though, a person who is your regular jack of trades I am really attracted to the possibility of actually doing something I will enjoy.
Did a bit of research and it seems the regular starting salary for a brewmaster would be 30,000 - 35,000, beyond that with experience it might become more.
After, I would be picked up by a brewery and make enough money perhaps then I’ll open my own brewery, or restaurant and make a larger salary
"It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts."
::Quote from The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
Anyone tried BrewDog's beers? We have two kinds at work and since this thread praises independent (Just an assumption as I have never ever heard about it) breweries I figure I might try it. I don't really like beer though. They all taste more or less exactly the same.
I've tried beer and I hate it. I have no idea why so many people like it, the same is true for coffee for me.
You need to refine your palate to taste the undertones.
Also I changed my mind, there is a type of alcohol I hate completely and would avoid drinking at all. Absinthe. Taste's like cough syrup, burns the **** out of my stomach and throat, and it leaves that terrible feeling in my mouth.
Anyone tried BrewDog's beers? We have two kinds at work and since this thread praises independent (Just an assumption as I have never ever heard about it) breweries I figure I might try it. I don't really like beer though. They all taste more or less exactly the same.
I have seen a few BrewDog beers, I have yet to have any of them though.
I really invite you to try as much as you can though, soon, you might change your mind about that sameness of all the beers you have tasted so far.
I've tried beer and I hate it. I have no idea why so many people like it, the same is true for coffee for me.
I hope you can explore beyond the regular taste, macro is never the way to go, if you are of age or are soon to be of age, any beer that has an advertisement is absolute crap.
It may be a simple case of getting use to it, which is a necessary action, I know plenty of people who could never drink an IPA and say it's good (which makes me die a little inside).
Really the ultimate goal is to overcome your comfort zone, if you need to start with a hard cider or barley wine, I fully invite that proposal, there are so many kinds of beer you just might discover one that tastes good to you. So keep at it, giving up after a few tastes won't help you in any way.
Take a flight, most breweries and brewhouse restaurants provide a $5-10 costing 5-7 taste experience of their current beers in about 2-4oz.
All you have to do is try and you can start to accustom yourself to what beer really should taste like, as well as the wide variety it has.
You need to refine your palate to taste the undertones.
Also I changed my mind, there is a type of alcohol I hate completely and would avoid drinking at all. Absinthe. Taste's like cough syrup, burns the **** out of my stomach and throat, and it leaves that terrible feeling in my mouth.
As I've not yet had absinthe, I'm still open to trying it, but if we want to talk cough syrup then that would be the vile Jagermeister, a thick glass of black licorice and ass is all I ever get from that crap.
Though, that hard stuff used to be my thing, but now it's all about that good beer and a few mixed drinks.
"It is a capital mistake to theorize before one has data. Insensibly one begins to twist facts to suit theories, instead of theories to suit facts."
::Quote from The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
However, we will be sticking to the primary topic here, and that is beer and how it has begun to explode across the world.
Brand new breweries and variation are everywhere.
Here is a look what I used to think was an acceptable beer: a Bud, a Coors, or a Miller high life. But in these past few months I've discovered the craft world.
I no longer drink that **** water anymore, now, I'm having Imperial Double India Pale Ales, Stouts, Porter, Barley Wine, Oak Barrel Farmhouse Ales, Belgian Dubbel, Tripel, the list of amazing taste continues to go on.
As of today I have had over 188 unique beers (Which I continue to track on the App; Unttapd)
Simple research shows hundreds of new breweries, and brew house restaurants have been popping up all across America. In San Diego area a recent report of ~30-40 breweries are currently being planned and starting to distribute.
Look at how big Stone, Karl Strauss, Sam Adams, New Belgium, and others have become. These are great companys where you can taste how great their beer is in comparison to all the watered down bile that is sold to us daily.
I say, go out, find a BevMo, a reasonably stocked Liquor shop, check out a few bars, and taste something new that you’ve never heard of before. There are more beers than you can ever imagine and those Ye Olde Beers your grandpappy swears by will just be pond scum after you've opened up to the craft beer world.
---
Now that my mission statement has been stated more or less.
To those of you who have already branched out into this fantastic world of Microbreweries and great taste. Let's talk about it some, tell me about any particular beer you've had recently or about local breweries you like to attend.
---
Interesting Links:
http://beeradvocate.com/ - Rating Site, along with encyclopedia-esue information, a hub for the practiced drinker.
http://untappd.com/ - An application and website to rate, comment, log the beers you've had, and where you have had them.
~Cheers
::Quote from The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
It's okay, the hops aren't very well balanced and the taste is a bit lacking, but it is a hot day, and this beer is quite suitable for this weather, and for this sandwich.
::Quote from The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
Arrogant ******* is definitely Stone's staple, and when you have the money, I certainly recommend you go to their brewery or even their restaurant out in the San Diego area.
As for that particular brew, I quite like it, along with its Oak Barrel variant. If you are up to more like it a few of the Rogues have a nice taste as well. I also recommend you don't go out and immediately try a India Pale Ale (or IPA) it won't be pleasant unless you have a few regular Pale ales first and adjust to the bitterness, then you can ascend the ladder of hoppiness towards master beers like Pliny the Elder from Russian River and Anniversary Ale from Port Brewing.
A couple other nice Stone beers would be Levitation, and Sublimely Self Righteous Ale.
MY protip: 32's that taste good tend to range between 5-10 dollars, secure that much money and your in like flint, you should also see if you might have suitable glassware for the particular beer you are drinking.
::Quote from The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
That's nice, does he own a brewery or work for one?
Or is he a Homebrewer?
::Quote from The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
I can appreciate cigars, a good 10 dollar macanudo is suitable for any situation, but when it comes to tasting other things, the smoke might ruin the taste of beers. (So if I'm done drinking, then, I'll have at a cigar)
But if you want some serious IPA's avoid the gas stations and grocery stores, only good beer-loving liquor stores or pubs like Killarneys will have a keen eye for the good stuff.
Mikkeller, Russian River, and the 10th Anniversary IPA Ruination from Stone. These places have keen examples of breweries and beers that actually have a stand out taste, nearly the best in fact.
When it comes to classification, lager, pilsner, and ale etc. Really if you drink enough different brands with the same class (which takes a while) you can figure out those subtle differences but also the similarities, a lager always needs that taste for it to be a lager.
But most of these classes are from the brewing methods anyway. A belgian trippel from Bruery might taste almost identical to a Boston Lager from Sam Adams, but the method of its creation is different and the difference of taste, even if slight, can still make it stand out.
::Quote from The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
He's a homebrewer. Every other weekend we make it in our garage. He's got it on a cycle were one batch is being made, one batch is fermenting in a bucket, one batch is fermenting again after being moved to another bucket (so it keeps the dead yeast out of the beer), and one is being carbonated in bottles.
All of the same type of beer? Or is each batch unique? I've met a few homebrewers who use the same system but vary their types.
::Quote from The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
He's testing it with different hops/mixtures/etc.
Always a good practice, how far does his interest reach? Will he keep up just home brewing, or does he hope to join in with a local brewery?
::Quote from The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
A great hobby to have then, still looking forward to when I can join the ranks of homebrewers.
And while I'm not sure if I might take this further into a profession i'm enjoying it as much as I can.
::Quote from The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
Well that differs on the position I might seek, if I want to be a brewmaster I would be working for a brewery to set up the recipes and brew method. If I wanted to open a brewhouse restaurant I'd be working towards creating a menu alongside running the brewery.
Really to me, I can't really start a brewery or a brewhouse, but if I could be hired by a brewery as their brewmaster that would be a job I could really enjoy, it will be tough and require a lot of education into the world of microbiology and agriculture as well as all of the brewing technical methodology. To me though, a person who is your regular jack of trades I am really attracted to the possibility of actually doing something I will enjoy.
Did a bit of research and it seems the regular starting salary for a brewmaster would be 30,000 - 35,000, beyond that with experience it might become more.
After, I would be picked up by a brewery and make enough money perhaps then I’ll open my own brewery, or restaurant and make a larger salary
::Quote from The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes
Venit, quessit, induravit.
You need to refine your palate to taste the undertones.
Also I changed my mind, there is a type of alcohol I hate completely and would avoid drinking at all. Absinthe. Taste's like cough syrup, burns the **** out of my stomach and throat, and it leaves that terrible feeling in my mouth.
I have seen a few BrewDog beers, I have yet to have any of them though.
I really invite you to try as much as you can though, soon, you might change your mind about that sameness of all the beers you have tasted so far.
I hope you can explore beyond the regular taste, macro is never the way to go, if you are of age or are soon to be of age, any beer that has an advertisement is absolute crap.
It may be a simple case of getting use to it, which is a necessary action, I know plenty of people who could never drink an IPA and say it's good (which makes me die a little inside).
Really the ultimate goal is to overcome your comfort zone, if you need to start with a hard cider or barley wine, I fully invite that proposal, there are so many kinds of beer you just might discover one that tastes good to you. So keep at it, giving up after a few tastes won't help you in any way.
Take a flight, most breweries and brewhouse restaurants provide a $5-10 costing 5-7 taste experience of their current beers in about 2-4oz.
All you have to do is try and you can start to accustom yourself to what beer really should taste like, as well as the wide variety it has.
As I've not yet had absinthe, I'm still open to trying it, but if we want to talk cough syrup then that would be the vile Jagermeister, a thick glass of black licorice and ass is all I ever get from that crap.
Though, that hard stuff used to be my thing, but now it's all about that good beer and a few mixed drinks.
::Quote from The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes